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Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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Yes. But that's why I said "if it's good for the job it's good for the job" If there's something that Grok *positively* does better than other LLMs, why wouldn't you want to use it, because, _boohoo_ Musk bad.

Because you won't know when it's going to peppering in Holocaust denials in the emails it composes for you.

If you found out that there's a task Grok excels at far better than GPT or Gemini, you're telling me you wouldn't use it?

Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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Interesting how you put "hamas apologists" and not pro-palestinians next to Zionists. How would you have felt if it was written "pro-palestinains and genocide-apologists"?

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If you want to meet pro-palestinians that don't have cartoonishly stereotyped opinions I suggest meatspace and not online.

Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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What kind of test is that? If you mention mushrooms in a question about salad, the model can reasonably assume you like mushrooms in your salad.

Mushrooms do not go with strawberries or pineapples in the context of a salad. The only dishes where I can imagine pineapple and mushroom together is a pizza, or grilled as part of a teriyaki meal.

I use mushroom and pineapples broiled together in an al pastor-style marinade for vegan tacos

Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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post #201

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Because you won't know when it's going to peppering in Holocaust denials in the emails it composes for you.

If you found out that there's a task Grok excels at far better than GPT or Gemini, you're telling me you wouldn't use it?

Yes

Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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post #179

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It isn't though because its not a complex and nuanced issue whatsoever. It's no different than teaching the controversy about evolution or seeing both sides of the holocaust. It is part of a planned coup against our government. Furthermore if you push it then it stops responding and refuses to answer at all.

I see. You WANT a slanted LLM, just one that's slanted in your direction!

It is not slanted for it to report reality. Also its a dead give away its being tweaked when it stops responding. It's the same if you touched on another forbidden topic.

Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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post #190

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Actually the first versions of Grok had the same "left leaning" bias as other models since it turns out that bias is in the data that everyone is using to train on), so if Grok is now more right leaning it is because they have deliberately manipulated it to be so. This also begs the question, does it make sense to call something a "bias" when that is the majority view (i.e. reflected in bulk of training data) ?

Does it make sense to call something “the majority view” when most news websites shut down their comment sections a decade ago so that you can’t see what other readers really think?

It'd be interesting to see what models like Grok are using as training data - how it breaks down into different categories of sources, as well as specific ones such as Twitter, Reddit, etc. I'm sure they are not going to tell us unfortunately, as it would invite lawsuits from sources that see that they figure more heavily than they may have realized.

Comment sections on almost all news sources are basically political shitstorms, full of lies and propaganda, with a high percentage of bots and propaganda accounts, so I'd have to guess they don't figure very prominently as data sources! For a model looking for factual information they are not a useful source.

Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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post #179

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I see. You WANT a slanted LLM, just one that's slanted in your direction!

It is not slanted for it to report reality. Also its a dead give away its being tweaked when it stops responding. It's the same if you touched on another forbidden topic.

There is nowhere near the level of social consensus about the events of January 6th as there is about evolution or the holocaust (if you think there is, I would venture you're either deep in particular cultural bubble or being blinded by your own strong views on the topic).

Anyway, all RLFHed models are "tweaked". Perhaps Grok leans a bit more "right" than ChatGPT or Claude (though I haven't noticed that), but it's not radically different.

Here's ChatGPT's answer to the original question:

https://chatgpt.com/share/682cac41-485c-8003-9e35-d37123b2a5...

It is similar to Grok's.

Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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post #201

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Because you won't know when it's going to peppering in Holocaust denials in the emails it composes for you.

If you found out that there's a task Grok excels at far better than GPT or Gemini, you're telling me you wouldn't use it?

Yes, in the same way I wouldn't hire an overt fascist. I could never trust it as a tool.

Re: xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

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Can anyone provide a reason an enterprise would choose Grok over a similar class of models?

If you’re Microsoft you may just want to give customers a choice. You may also want to have a 2nd source and drive performance, cost, etc… just like any other product.
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