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I recently got an Amazon recruiter ping, but realized that they couldn’t pay me enough to commute into the city center. I’m not really looking, but if push came to shove, I would have to if the industry is really moving back to the office. Makes me real sad.
- We need save climate! Less pollution! - Can I work from home? - That's not what I meant!
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I don't think these things are really done because you get more done at an office. I think it's more of a litmus test: If you care about your work enough that you're willing to come to the office every day (or even move cities/countries), then you'll be extremely engaged. So by saying "you have to come to the office 5 days a week", you will only get people who are very engaged and will get a lot done—even if it's not…
> If you care about your work enough that you're willing to come to the office every day (or even move cities/countries), then you'll be extremely engaged. Or extremely stupid (if for the same money you get WFH without the need to move to another city or even country and waste I don't know how many hours commuting, and spending most of your life in a space that you can't really adapt to your needs).
If you're committed for the right reasons or not ultimately doesn't matter, but it is a filter for candidates.
Plus there are people who genuinely like working from an office full-time.
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As someone who's not into gaming, it's still astounding to me how people endure the working conditions in that industry just because they're obsessed with video games. I suppose it's the weird dynamic in our society where you get paid less and have worse working conditions the more passion you feel for your work.
"Do what you love and you will never have to work a day in your life" You will also get paid less than you are worth and eventually start to hate what you love.
The intersection between highly paid and passionate is surprisingly rare.
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Agreed. I had a bizarre interview experience with them whereupon finishing the interview, the hiring manager emailed me once a week for about 4 or 5 weeks in a row asking if I was still interested. It was bizarre. How many times do I have to say yes? After the 4th or 5th time I just told them no, not any more.
> After the 4th or 5th time I just told them no, not any more. I hope that is the point where they sent the offer.
Are there any companies making the news that are going in the opposite direction? Allowing more flexible “hybrid”, or even full remote? I recently got an Amazon recruiter ping, but realized that they couldn’t pay me enough to commute into the city center. I’m not really looking, but if push came to shove, I would have to if the industry is really moving back to the office. Makes me real sad.
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"Do what you love and you will never have to work a day in your life" You will also get paid less than you are worth and eventually start to hate what you love.
I think it's a psychological thing where we assume what's fun can't be highly paid and what sucks must be worth a lot of compensation. The intersection between highly paid and passionate is surprisingly rare.
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"Do what you love and you will never have to work a day in your life" You will also get paid less than you are worth and eventually start to hate what you love.
I think it's a psychological thing where we assume what's fun can't be highly paid and what sucks must be worth a lot of compensation. The intersection between highly paid and passionate is surprisingly rare.
Also, I've seen plenty of people on HN insist that people doing "creative" work (excepting programmers, who are obviously worth every penny) should do so for free so as not to taint the purity of their work with capitalist incentives.
It isn't an assumption that what's fun can't be highly paid, rather it's an assumption that what's fun shouldn't be highly paid.
Probably the worst company I've interviewed for. Yet another reason to stay away
Agreed. I had a bizarre interview experience with them whereupon finishing the interview, the hiring manager emailed me once a week for about 4 or 5 weeks in a row asking if I was still interested. It was bizarre. How many times do I have to say yes? After the 4th or 5th time I just told them no, not any more.