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Re: Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only

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post #71

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I haven't made the jump from arrows to hjkl. My cofounder's keyboard is arrowless, but my HHKB lite still has the arrows. Maybe in another 5 years I'll make the switch.

Don't do it! Once your fingers learn and start to prefer hjkl you'll waste a lot of time and effort in other programs trying to use them. Really, more things just need vi-like interfaces :(

Name something you use that you think doesn't have a vi-like interface.

Re: Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only

#102
post #90

On a related note, is there an easy way to find other free or dirt-cheap (US $0.99) E-books on Amazon? The Amazon site likes to group things into "As low as " sections, which means there's a least one item at that price, with most things costing more.

One way is to go to the kindle store, choose the kind of book you want (Amazon calls it a "Department") and sort by price. For instance, here are programming books: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st?bbn=726697011&qid=1345... It's not perfect but you can find good deals this way.

Oh, fantastic. Thanks.

Re: Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only

#104

Once every six months something inspires me to put a book on the Kindle that I received as a Christmas present two years ago. Then the frustrations begin. In this case, after finding the table of contents I try to use the up-down-joystick-button to navigate the TOC. It's just painfully slow and it's displaying definitions for every word I happen to be on (it starts off showing me the definition for "Table" in Table o…

You might like the Kindle Touch better. Just touch the entry you want.

Re: Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only

#105
post #51

I just bought it using the button "Buy it with 1-Click" and I found it a bit scary. I mean, no confirmation and all. It's like just click and, BOOM, a confirmation email saying that you've already bought it. It's quite jarring as compared to buying stuff from other websites.

Yes it's almost surprising the first few times you do it. I find myself thinking "wait, which card did that just go on?" You can get a refund within 7 days though if you do click by accident.

Oh, thank god for that. Generally I've lived without an Amazon account because they don't work outside the US. But this one, combined with the post that helped generate fake US addresses pushed me to do it.

Actually, now I'm pretty sure why Amazon would be upset when someone else copies their one-click patent. And the sneaky thing is, when you create a new account it's on by default!

Re: Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only

#106
post #8

Awesome. Thanks for sharing. I've been using vim for 6 months, but I still feel like a n00b. Looking forward to checking this out. I started my vim experience using Janus But I didn't understand how anything worked or why any of the plugins were there. That led me to starting from scratch (I forked my cofounder's dotfiles) and now I feel like I know my vim config waaaay better. If you've been using janus, I'd highly…

Keep at it, I've been using vim for 15 years and I also still feel like a noob.

not sure if that says bad things about Vim or good...

Re: Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only

#108
post #81
post #71

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I haven't made the jump from arrows to hjkl. My cofounder's keyboard is arrowless, but my HHKB lite still has the arrows. Maybe in another 5 years I'll make the switch.

Does this really make that much difference? I kind of view the hjkl vs arrow keys like I view the standard debate about motion commands vs. the mouse. Lots of people say they are faster using motion commands, and I know I use search motions 85% of the time. But if I want to go somewhere that's visible on the screen, the mouse is almost always quicker. And I've used vi and derivatives for 20+ years now (although obvio…

For me it's not about wall clock quicker, but perceived quicker. I use a couple of different keyboards throughout the day, and they all have the arrows in slightly different places (more variation than letter keys...) which makes it similar to the mouse...

Namely, the amount of concentration required to hit an arrow or get the mouse to do what I want feels slower because I have to pause my thoughts, rather than just queue up a nerve message to my fingers to "then go over there and...". Stopping the train of thought to manipulate the mouse - which requires a lot more visual feedback and focus than just knowing that the cursor will get there - makes me overall slower because I'm context switching.

Re: Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only

#109
post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't do it! Once your fingers learn and start to prefer hjkl you'll waste a lot of time and effort in other programs trying to use them. Really, more things just need vi-like interfaces :(

Name something you use that you think doesn't have a vi-like interface.

To be fair, most vi-like interfaces suck or worse, they are clunky, incomplete or have odd bugs when interfacing with the rest of the program.

Re: Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only

#110
post #9

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If you send me your email address I'll lend you my copy for 14 days (the limit set by the publisher).

I can't find a way to message you. How do I do that? There's no email in your profile...

D'oh. Sorry. Send me an email at my username at gmail. :)
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