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I’m not sure why this is being voted down. The NSF did actively pursue DEI and the US government is obligated not to fund organizations that discriminate based on race.
As a federal contractor within NIH, I can tell you that the damage has already been done to the United States' dominance in science. Even if every action taken by current administration is reversed, the uncertainty for foreign scientists is too much. Many that I have spoken to are looking for their exit from either gov or academic research, or looking to leave the United States completely. The Trump admins cuts are n…
You didn't say what's wrong with ending up in industry, but mention it like it's bad?
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"It's not a clustefuck" ... proceeds to describe a clusterfuck ... What was your intention here?
A clusterfuck describes chaos and disorganization. This is just a deliberate attack, it is being executed well. It is just malicious.
As a federal contractor within NIH, I can tell you that the damage has already been done to the United States' dominance in science. Even if every action taken by current administration is reversed, the uncertainty for foreign scientists is too much. Many that I have spoken to are looking for their exit from either gov or academic research, or looking to leave the United States completely. The Trump admins cuts are n…
However, deep scientific cultural do roots exist here and won’t be stamped out by some fearmongering. The entire western world is under populist pressure right now, not just here. So even if you imagine someone moving out and studying in a different country, it’s not a guarantee they will find stability there either.
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Science will do fine. The US enjoyed the benefits of hosting most of the scientific progress. Americans are worried that we won’t be at the forefront anymore. It is an evergreen sentiment at this point—maybe a multi-polar world will be better. But I’m an American, I want the US to be winning.
And obviously, there are entire experiments that are (quite literally in some cases) dying right now due to sudden cutoff of funds. It could be years before those get back on track.
Good read; too long to sway public opinion though. The most convincing and interesting thing I’ve read about the US’s science standing is just a reminder that it wasn’t always considered a global science leader. A few people saw the opportunity created by Nazi ideological purges of scientists and built, among other things, Princeton’s IAS. Considered most charitably, the current administration sees itself as trying t…
IMHO America's success as a scientific powerhouse had more to do with the research infrastructure spun up to win the war than Nazi scientists afterwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shFUDPqVmTg Sabine highlights the problem with scientific funding in this video and it should be required watching before posting on this thread. Reform is needed. Some good will be tossed with a lot of bad. Its a cycle, a pendulum, and it will eventually tip to excess again sometime in the future. For now... fixing what is broken ought to be the priority.
Counterpoint, please consider watching Professor Dave discuss the issues with Sabine's talking points. While there are certainly problems within science, Sabine has the most nihilistic view of the field. https://youtu.be/nJjPH3TQif0
Evidently the president appointed one of his personal attorneys to be the new librarian of Congress. The library turned him away because Congress hasn't approved him. It seems it's becoming more of a clusterfuck just about every day.
Nelson was deputy assistant to President Joe Biden and principal deputy director for science and society of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy
Is she even a highly qualified? She has a Ph.D., but in what?
Nelson earned a Bachelor of Science degree in anthropology
She earned a Ph.D. in American studies from New York University in 2003.
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"It's not a clustefuck" ... proceeds to describe a clusterfuck ... What was your intention here?
A clusterfuck generally implies a mishandled situation. The author is saying that there was intention behind the actions and that this outcome was the goal.
Thanks for the clarification.
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You didn't say what's wrong with ending up in industry, but mention it like it's bad?
Not doing basic research, and your research is entirely driven by short-term profit motives rather than long term benefit of humanity.
In my experience, industry can be vastly better funded, but the industry labs are internal and perhaps very hard to find.