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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Post by tart-lemonade »

tptacek wrote: post #308
walrus01 wrote: post #231

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Deep dish pizza, I'm not so sure is going to find many fans in Rome. Just put a cover on top of it and call it a calzone, I guess.

He's a South Sider (Dolton) and South Side Chicago pizza is cracker-thin.

Thin-crust (or "tavern style" as some call it) has been widespread across the city for quite awhile.

> As of 2013, according to Grubhub data and the company Chicago Pizza Tours, thin-crust outsells the more widely known deep-dish style among locals, with GrubHub stating that deep-dish comprises only 9% of its pizza deliveries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_pizza#Thin-crust...

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Post by dragonwriter »

raddan wrote: post #430
afavour wrote: post #97

> "Cardinal George of Chicago, of happy memory, was one of my great mentors, and he said: 'Look, until America goes into political decline, there won't be an American pope.' And his point was, if America is kind of running the world politically, culturally, economically, they don't want America running the world religiously. So, I think there's some truth to that, that we're such a superpower and so dominant, they do…

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> I guess I interpret it as "America has gone into political decline." I'm a bit surprised to hear a Trump appointee say that

What do you think the premise of the motto Make America Great Again is? The difference between Trumpists and others who see a decline is that the former see the 2016 and 2024 elections as reverses in the decline, whereas other see them as sources or exacerbations.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Post by antognini »

pavlov wrote: post #310

In his time around the end of the 19th century, Leo XIII was known as the “Social Pope” and “Pope of the Workers”. He wasn’t a radical but opened the door to modern thinking in the church. Presumably there’s some symbolism to why the new pope wanted to adopt this particular name.

There's also more baggage associated with choosing the name of a very recent predecessor. Choosing Francis II would alienate certain factions in the Church, choosing Benedict XVII or John Paul III would alienate others. Reaching further back in time is more of a signal of unity.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Post by tptacek »

tart-lemonade wrote: post #501
tptacek wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's a South Sider (Dolton) and South Side Chicago pizza is cracker-thin.

Thin-crust (or "tavern style" as some call it) has been widespread across the city for quite awhile. > As of 2013, according to Grubhub data and the company Chicago Pizza Tours, thin-crust outsells the more widely known deep-dish style among locals, with GrubHub stating that deep-dish comprises only 9% of its pizza deliveries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_pizza#Thin-crust...

I'm not saying we own thin-crust Chicago pizza, just that deep dish was not a thing on the south side when he lived there (it wasn't in the 80s and 90s when I grew up there either).

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Post by myvoiceismypass »

ivape wrote: post #470
afavour wrote: post #97

> "Cardinal George of Chicago, of happy memory, was one of my great mentors, and he said: 'Look, until America goes into political decline, there won't be an American pope.' And his point was, if America is kind of running the world politically, culturally, economically, they don't want America running the world religiously. So, I think there's some truth to that, that we're such a superpower and so dominant, they do…

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American Christianity != American Catholicism

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Post by sirbutters »

senderista wrote: post #462
sirbutters wrote: post #369

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Exactly. The day orange loser posted his picture as the pope, you just had to read what catholics were saying in r/conservative. It was a mostly along the lines of "I don't think it was very wise to do that, but I'll never stop supporting him".

I bet they'd say the same thing if Trump memed himself being crucified or something.

The beautiful irony is if he started to embrace the true teaching of Christ (love one another, forgive your enemies, help the poor etc), they would start to renounce him.

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Post by jowea »

quesera wrote: post #419
doomroot13 wrote: post #327

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Don't hold your breath. My whole family are staunch Catholics and disliked Francis because of his more "liberal" leanings. Some Catholics believed he was the "anti-christ" and loved Trump. Seriously.

I'm pretty sure you cease to be a Catholic when you call the Pope the anti-Christ. Infallible, God's representative on Earth, etc. Though in USAmerica, we're pretty flexible on the meaning of "Christian" anyway. Certainly the loudest proclaimers have no resemblance whatsoever to the expected meaning. Those troublesome CINOs.. Gosh Darn them to Heck.

I think Sedevacantists and similar do consider themselves Catholic, although I don't think they usually believe the main Pope is the anti-Christ
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