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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Is he a Cubs or White Sox fan though?

Do the White Sox still have any fans?

...yes :(

I was ~8(ish) when my parents took me to their last World Series. Now, I'm a fan fueled by nostalgia and a deeply ingrained belief that 'THIS is the year they will go ALL the way!'

One day it'll pay off

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Is Pope Leo eligible to be voted President of the United States?

Article I, Section 9, Clause 8: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

This doesn't seem to comment on preexisting titles if I'm reading it correctly?

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Sure but most of the world, when they say America or American, they mean the USA, otherwise they'll say "the Americas" or "North American" or "South American" or refer to a specific country. It's just a reality that a lot of people don't want to face, but you have to be pragmatic in life for the most part.

> most of the world, when they say America or American, they mean the US Ehh no. In school in Argentina you are taught that the whole continent is called America, then you have subcontinents in it (North/central/south), and I would guess other south american countries are the same. If you want to say citizen of the USA in Argentina you would call them yankees.

OK, but English speakers are under no obligation to follow conventions and vocabulary used by Spanish speakers. Similarly, the Poles, French and English all have their own words for Germany that look nothing like "Deutschland". (The Polish word for Germany is Niemcy. The French word is Allemagne.)

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So he "literally" said he won't do anything about it until children can muster the courage and resources to prove in court they were abused. This is "why didn't she go to the police" for children. The police are not to be trusted, certainly not to against the Catholic Church.

Then who should investigate? The church cannot do anything to anyone they investigate other than 'order' them to remain in a monastery (which, they can leave at anytime since this is a free country and church rules are not law).

They could just out these pedophiles and remove them from positions in the church, but they rather hide their crimes and shield them.

They did absolutely nothing until it became too hard to ignore reality and now they are dealing with that.

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> which has real name that is different Always saying "United States of America" would be rather cumbersome. But it's the reward for being the first country on the content to become independent. Everybody else afterwards had to pick more specific names tot avoid any confusion. BTW Columbia was also frequently used as a generic name for the American Continent back in the 1700s and 1800s. The modern country of Colombia…

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That's rather purposefully obtuse? Obviously the none of the pre-Columbian states ever used the name "America" to refer to the continent.

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I wonder if there is any other event in recent history that is communicated as quickly to as many people as the fact that a new pope has been elected. I was out on the streets when the church bells started ringing here in Vienna as must have all around the globe where there are catholic churches

Pretty sure the US presidential election is on par. Maybe the exact timing is ambiguous since candidates usually declare victory/admit defeat before all the votes have been counted officially, but still.

Eurovision is quicker.

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St Peter was the first Pope; all Popes after are successors to him

If they're constructed as ordinals, then, why do they call them cardinals?

Cardinals are cardinal and Popes are ordinal. It's math.

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To placate or appeal to the current American leadership? What's the desired outcome? European, NATO, or Ukrainian security guarantees?

From what I read, the new pope is much like Francis on human rights and political topics, but a bit more conservative about church doctrine. Perhaps it's to have a counterpoint to Trump in America, to show that not all American-born leaders are trash? Time will tell, I suppose.

I wouldn't presume Prevost is more doctrinally conservative than Francis, just because Francis wasn't as liberal as popularly claimed. Rather, American conservative bishops attempted to paint Francis as doctrinally liberal as part of their rhetorical strategy to attack Francis' non-doctrinal liberalism (e.g. on high-profile but non-doctrinal matters related to discipline, liturgy, etc). Similarly, progressive activists chose to interpret Francis' policies as doctrinal shifts, when they weren't. Though it's possible the latter phenomenon was something Francis was content to leave uncorrected. Francis seemed to embrace ambiguity in his pronouncements as a method of rapprochement.

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Some jokes I saw on Reddit: He is to be referred to as, "Da Pope." "Ketchup to be banned in the Vatican." "He's going to replace Communion Wine with Malört."

Daaaa Pope.

Coulda been Pope Ditka.

Also... Bears fan from [deepest darkest] Peru could've gone with Pope Paddington? (I kid because I love)

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