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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Some jokes I saw on Reddit: He is to be referred to as, "Da Pope." "Ketchup to be banned in the Vatican." "He's going to replace Communion Wine with Malört."

Deep dish pizza, I'm not so sure is going to find many fans in Rome.

Just put a cover on top of it and call it a calzone, I guess.

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Sure but most of the world, when they say America or American, they mean the USA, otherwise they'll say "the Americas" or "North American" or "South American" or refer to a specific country. It's just a reality that a lot of people don't want to face, but you have to be pragmatic in life for the most part.

> most of the world, when they say America or American, they mean the US

Ehh no. In school in Argentina you are taught that the whole continent is called America, then you have subcontinents in it (North/central/south), and I would guess other south american countries are the same. If you want to say citizen of the USA in Argentina you would call them yankees.

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For what it's worth, Peru is in South America. Still American, Technically.

From reading online comments, I'm starting to believe that those who reside outside the US are more strident defenders of the idea that "US citizens only" = "American" than US citizens themselves.

Not in Central America. We call US citizens "Gringos" Unfortunately, this does carry a variable negative weight.

Now, Latin Americans living in the US proudly call themselves "Americans"

Edit: Albeit long, the correct gentilice for the US is "Estadounidenses" as in "Estados Unidos de América"

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This is such petty semantics, most of the world understands that is is a shortening of The United States of America. In fact most everyone uses some version of “Americans” [1]. 96% of the world refers to America as a continent and I’m sure 96% refer to the US as America too. It’s all about context. I don’t think anyone is genuinely confused most of the time.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonyms_for_the_United_Stat...

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Some jokes I saw on Reddit: He is to be referred to as, "Da Pope." "Ketchup to be banned in the Vatican." "He's going to replace Communion Wine with Malört."

Dislike Chicagoans ketchup?

they certainly don't appreciate it on their hot dogs.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, Peru is in South America. Still American, Technically.

From reading online comments, I'm starting to believe that those who reside outside the US are more strident defenders of the idea that "US citizens only" = "American" than US citizens themselves.

Yes, there's true to that, if only because "we" (latin americans) have given up to that discussion and just don't want to be confused with USA citizens.

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Is he a Cubs or White Sox fan though?

He's a Cubs fan, according to ABC News. (Interesting given he's a south sider).

The quote I heard was “You hear him described as a quiet, humble man. That’s perhaps how he survived growing up on the south side while being a cubs fan”

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‘I was only following orders.’

A lot of the church abuse scandal happened during a couple of decades when the church's handling of the cases were the result of following the then scientific consensus on the matter. The church was not alone in this. The scientists told us they could be reformed. Just look up the history of what was going on in Germany following the same advice. It's a relatively new thing where we just declare pedophiles unfixable…

It was not about them being reformed or not. It was about protecting the institution from bad PR without care for victims.

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How men of cloth treat gay people is a good litmus test for whether they’re following the Christian tenets of love and forgiveness. Like, you’re dealing with one of God’s creatures, per the Christian worldview. You can’t claim to respect God’s plan and then turn around and say you know better when it makes you feel icky. > job is to deal moral teachings, rather than follow the crowd An American Catholic hating and de…

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