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India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by pkd »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #234
kumarvvr wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are options for a negotiated peace that involves swapping land, specifically, ceding Muslim-dominant territory to Pakistan and setting borders along rivers. Sorry, why would that be done? When Pakistan was split from India, because of the Muslims voting against their own land that they have been living in for centuries, the lines are set and done. Why should India cede more land? Pakistan is on one of the mos…

> When Pakistan was split from India, because of the Muslims voting against their own land that they have been living in for centuries, the lines are set and done Lines are never "set and done for." We had a short period of global consensus around the unacceptability of taking territory by force. But between the superpowers' proxy wars, America's invasion of Iraq, China's annexation of Tibet and threats on Taiwan, an…

This is a weird line of reasoning. By this logic the aggressors will always win because the other side should always concede territory for peace.

Even if Kashmir is ceded to Pakistan, there is no reason why they'd be done aggressing for more territory.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by xkcd1963 »

happyopossum wrote: post #147
roenxi wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are actually well charted waters - people are shooting at each other and some fairly high percentage of the time everything calms down but the rest of the time it escalates crazily with both sides losing control. Situation as old as time, long rich history of provocative military action. I observe from time to time that Moscow appears to be under fire from the occasional US-sponsored attack for example. So far,…

> from time to time that Moscow appears to be under fire from the occasional US-sponsored attack for example Ok, you lost me there..

How is his viewpoint not valid?

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by babyent »

Hoping for a quick resolution and diplomatic victory for all people there. I’m scared of the geopolitical effects.

On a side note.. Can we get the Peace and Prosperity update next, ASAP? Let’s bring out the aliens issue and work on interstellar travel and galactic survival instead of terrestrial disputes.

I just want to live in a chill world. And for me that’s science and tech tree maxed out.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by xkcd1963 »

su8898 wrote: post #128

A few months ago, I stopped reading random news and decided to stick only to Hacker News. But now, even Hacker News is filled with random content. I guess there's no escaping the news these days.

hackernews is very biased

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by xkcd1963 »

neom wrote: post #60

I've been thinking recently about how business has been a pretty decent wrapper around wars and killings, arenas, lands, whatever, just: competing for human death. However, I've also been thinking that in late stage capitalism, genuine entrepreneurship is probably increasingly difficult to get into, leading to less genuine opportunity, leading to less business, leading to idle hands, leading to the devils workshop.

Truth be told, we have all tools to feed all humans and have a moderate life quality, but some people want to have more than others, just for the sake of it.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by kumarvvr »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #234
kumarvvr wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are options for a negotiated peace that involves swapping land, specifically, ceding Muslim-dominant territory to Pakistan and setting borders along rivers. Sorry, why would that be done? When Pakistan was split from India, because of the Muslims voting against their own land that they have been living in for centuries, the lines are set and done. Why should India cede more land? Pakistan is on one of the mos…

> When Pakistan was split from India, because of the Muslims voting against their own land that they have been living in for centuries, the lines are set and done Lines are never "set and done for." We had a short period of global consensus around the unacceptability of taking territory by force. But between the superpowers' proxy wars, America's invasion of Iraq, China's annexation of Tibet and threats on Taiwan, an…

One does not negotiate with terrorist supporting military dictatorships.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by FullGarden_S »

roenxi wrote: post #228
kumarvvr wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WLwHK_22pm0

It is hard to figure out what he is saying in that clip; it doesn't have the context that explains what he was actually referring to and the clip jumps in a way suggesting that part of his response was elided.

feel free to look up the full interview and get the context right.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

FullGarden_S wrote: post #233
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither person in this clip claims or admits that Pakistan directed the 22 April terrorist attack.

Why would they? Even the USA never admits their direct involvement straight away so its delusional of you to be expecting something like that. If Pakistan is the kind of nation to confess, peace would have been established long back.

It sounds like you agree with me that the defense minister did not say what the original commenter claimed he said, so I’m not sure what you’re calling me delusional about.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by throw63 »

babyent wrote: post #243

Hoping for a quick resolution and diplomatic victory for all people there. I’m scared of the geopolitical effects. On a side note.. Can we get the Peace and Prosperity update next, ASAP? Let’s bring out the aliens issue and work on interstellar travel and galactic survival instead of terrestrial disputes. I just want to live in a chill world. And for me that’s science and tech tree maxed out.

> and for me that’s science and tech tree maxed out.

Hate to ruin it for you, but as soon as the economic elites don't need the masses anymore (eg because AGI produces goods and entertainment better than we do), we'll become a liability, dead weight, so they'll quickly use that same maxed out tech that made us obsolete to make us gone.

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