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India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by kumarvvr »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #106
screye wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

India wants peace. A peaceful India threatens Pakistan's entire existence as a military state. Therefore, Pakistan keeps instigating with outrageously cruel terrorist attacks. There are no strategic goals here. Either side may recover some vantage points high up in the Himalayas. But that's about it.

> India wants peace Not really. There are options for a negotiated peace that involves swapping land, specifically, ceding Muslim-dominant territory to Pakistan and setting borders along rivers. That's anathema in India because there is broad-based antipathy towards Islamabad, historically, and Muslims, recently.

> There are options for a negotiated peace that involves swapping land, specifically, ceding Muslim-dominant territory to Pakistan and setting borders along rivers.

Sorry, why would that be done? When Pakistan was split from India, because of the Muslims voting against their own land that they have been living in for centuries, the lines are set and done.

Why should India cede more land?

Pakistan is on one of the most resource rich, fertile lands in the Indian subcontinent.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by cute_boi »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #41
MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #23

The bad news: there is some real potential for escalation due to the suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/indias-water... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Waters_Treaty Wasn't there something in the intro of "Mad Max fury road" about water wars?

> there is some real potential for escalation due to the suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty Neither side wants peace. But neither side wants to commit military manoeuvre that secures strategic aims. So we get this defence sale wet dream of a forever war instead.

I don't know about India, but Pakistan definitely don't want peace. They are nurturing terrorist eg. Osama. I guess whole world should stand against Pakistan.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by ThrowawayTestr »

su8898 wrote: post #149
Apocryphon wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking about armed brinksmanship between two nuclear powers is sooooo random, maybe a more specialized community like they have on Reddit is more your speed?

Thanks for the judgment, but I think you might have missed the point I was making.

What point are you trying to make? HN has always had threads about major events and two nuclear powers fighting is a major event.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by kumarvvr »

vFunct wrote: post #111
dd_xplore wrote: post #101

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> India attacked Pakistan with zero evidence that Pakistan supported any terrorists

I though Osama Bin Laden was found living happily with 4 wives in Pakistan. Even the US had to do a covert operation to kill him. Pakistan shielded him and withheld his whereabouts for almost a decade.

Pakistan is a know terrorist breeding ground, aided and abetted by the Military, which holds the real power there.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by kumarvvr »

ferguess_k wrote: post #17

I hope this cools down into a propagation war after the initial bombing and shooting. Nationalism served, and every one gets what they want, well, except the dead ones...

> every one gets what they want

India wants Pakistan to end cross-border terrorism. Everyone did not get what they want.

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Post by cute_boi »

vFunct wrote: post #111
dd_xplore wrote: post #101

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> zero evidence that Pakistan supported any terrorists

Pakistan is country where their government supports terrorism, and a simple search and lesson on history is sufficient. And, I hope you know the name of country Osama was hiding.

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Post by hayst4ck »

screye wrote: post #79
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there is some real potential for escalation due to the suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty Neither side wants peace. But neither side wants to commit military manoeuvre that secures strategic aims. So we get this defence sale wet dream of a forever war instead.

India wants peace. A peaceful India threatens Pakistan's entire existence as a military state. Therefore, Pakistan keeps instigating with outrageously cruel terrorist attacks. There are no strategic goals here. Either side may recover some vantage points high up in the Himalayas. But that's about it.

Israel and Russia also want peace. China wants peace with Taiwan. The US wants peace with Greenland and Canada.

You have to be careful with that word, peace, because all wars are defensive.

Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir

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Post by kumarvvr »

vFunct wrote: post #111
dd_xplore wrote: post #101

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> At this point India is just a warmongering state like Israel

If a neighbour comes into my house and kills my family, rapes them and loots them, then I as damn sure as hell going to unleash disproportionate hell on them, even if only to serve as a warning to other neighbours to think twice before messing with me.

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