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India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir
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> People said the same sorts of things when Germany suddenly invaded Poland
Hell, look at HN on the eve of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. One of the top comments was essentially a dismissal from Kherson edited to an "oh shit."
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know, I sit on a few Christian discords and all they do on it is fight between each other (denomination vs denomination). They sit around and combatively go after each other and there is also interfaith beef that happens constantly on those Discords (Muslims vs Christians is a big one). It's almost like ... yeah, I have to agree with you. It's almost like if the human doesn't have a true and good outlet for energ…
I lived in Manhattan for 20 years and during the Obama years I was traveling across the country a lot, was very obvious to me Trump was coming but people thought I was nuts. I'd head back to the city and sip a cosmo thinking "people really love to hate 'other'".
I tend to take Marxist view: elites always exploit the common man, and when the common man becomes unhappy, it is the best strategy to channel hate towards the Other so that regular folk dont start asking inconvenient questions.
Like every time there is small blip in economy in the Us, it is always illegals and immigrants in general and poor people are blamed. Always.
Never have I ever seen a PE billionaire getting blamed for acquiring companies by borrowing at 0% rates and firing people to and outsource jobs
People in Bay Area feel it is okay to pay 50% in marginal taxes on payroll, while billionaire class either doesnt pay at all, or pays 10% capital gain at best
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Pakistan-India conflict is orthogonal to America and China's.
It is useful for the US to isolate China from Iranian oil resources. Currently Iranian oil can go via Pakistan to China. Thats how Us operates: exploits old conflicts for its own immediate benefit, like it did with Ukr-Rus war. If some people die on both side it is acceptable for the Us, because these are not Us citizens dying
CPEC isn't viable energy coordidor yet - no completed oil/gas infra from Iran to Pak to PRC. Which only leaves trucks, and the roads not designed to support 5000+ trucks per day for Irans 1m barrels per day.
Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Pakistan-India conflict is orthogonal to America and China's.
It is useful for the US to isolate China from Iranian oil resources. Currently Iranian oil can go via Pakistan to China. Thats how Us operates: exploits old conflicts for its own immediate benefit, like it did with Ukr-Rus war. If some people die on both side it is acceptable for the Us, because these are not Us citizens dying
> Thats how Us operates: exploits old conflicts for its own immediate benefit, like it did with Ukr-Rus war.
This is realpolitik 101, and every powerful society does it. Like, India didn't help sever Bangladesh f/k/a East Pakistan from Islamabad because it was being nice. (I'm not saying every society exploits every old conflict. Just that if you need to do something, you start with extant fault lines. Like, if you're going to war with Nazi Germany you don't sideline the Soviets and British because that's mean or whatnot.)
Also, the problem with Pakistan isn't that its ports could be used to import oil. It's that the ports are being configured for Chinese blue-water operations.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
> there is some real potential for escalation due to the suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty Neither side wants peace. But neither side wants to commit military manoeuvre that secures strategic aims. So we get this defence sale wet dream of a forever war instead.
India wants peace. A peaceful India threatens Pakistan's entire existence as a military state. Therefore, Pakistan keeps instigating with outrageously cruel terrorist attacks. There are no strategic goals here. Either side may recover some vantage points high up in the Himalayas. But that's about it.
> India wants peace
Not really. There are options for a negotiated peace that involves swapping land, specifically, ceding Muslim-dominant territory to Pakistan and setting borders along rivers. That's anathema in India because there is broad-based antipathy towards Islamabad, historically, and Muslims, recently.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody is threatening to topple Islamabad. UAE and KSA have interests, but insufficient influence to force outcomes. The relevant players are in Beijing and Washington. > India and Pakistan can normalize relations, and sincere attempts have been made by both sides, but inter-factional competition amongst Pakistan's elite has undermined it India has less motivation for war. But it’s also done nothing to negotiate a pe…
> UAE and KSA have interests, but insufficient influence to force outcomes 2019 is a good example of UAE using it's heft [0][1]. In a couple years we'll probably see leaks in Bloomberg or AJ about KSA doing something similar rn. > India has less motivation for war. But it’s also done nothing to negotiate a peace. Both have worked on reconciliation immediately before some incident arises that causes talks to collapse.…
> 2019 is a good example of UAE using it's heft
This is not projecting power, it's the UAE (and Qatar) playing their aspirational roles as the new Davos/Switzerland for diplomacy.
Pakistan is definitely more anti-peace than India. But while Islamabad undermines peace, New Delhi is mostly uninterested in it.
Re: India launches attack on 9 sites in Pakistan and Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Pakistan is not economically strong enough to participate in a war, and India is not interested Proxy war between U.S. and China. We’re moving the naval assets that were bombing the Houthis. India seizing Pakistan-administered Kashmir cuts Islamabad off from China.
The Pakistan-India conflict is orthogonal to America and China's.
> Pakistan-India conflict is orthogonal to America and China's
India is negotiating trade deals and weapons purchases with the West. (Historically, Moscow was its security source.) Pakistan got some F-16s in 2022, but otherwise has been deepending ties with Beijing. It's wild to suggest America's cold war with China is orthogonal to this conflict.
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#109What a horrible time to work in an industry with mostly foreign coworkers.
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