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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by detaro »

echelon wrote: post #147
habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

I was actually shocked by this tariff. It's a pro-union, pro-labor, classic progressive move. If you haven't been following what's happening with film production, basically production has moved from LA, Atlanta, New York, etc. to cheap countries in Eastern Europe and Asia. A vast majority of IATSE film crew productions have now vacated the US. It's decimated the local film crew workforce and forced many to leave the…

Pro-union right until the point where the studios go whining to him about exactly that.

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Post by artemisart »

earthcreed wrote: post #92
habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right? It is for the very reasons you cited.

But do you understand it will harm Hollywood? This is the economic, country scale equivalent of saying "fuck your movies", do you think the answer will be "oh sorry, I'll keep buying yours" or "fuck your movies too"?

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Post by darkwater »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #75
propter_hoc wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a remarkable statement when Fellini and Kieślowski exist.

Yes, two directors exist, one who's been dead for 29 years, the other who's been dead for 32 years. I stand corrected then.

I hoped you were trolling but now I doubt it.

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Post by orwin »

jansan wrote: post #76

Europe should counter this with 500% tariffs. I (being German) really want to see a comeback of French cinema.

You probably won't. French cinema is americanizing. Good movies are still made, but 'les 3 mousquetaires' showed that most huge french productions are poor copies of 2000 era Ridley Scott (well, Ridley Scott himself make poor copies of his 2000-era films). 'Le Comte de Monte Cristo' was better (way better), but the colour filters,the lack of sound (or the music too loud and too epic), the useless sword fight and the 'reading letter' trick, all inspired by Hollywood action movies pushed it down from Good movie to 'almost as bad as Marvel' imho.

And the dialogs not inspired from the book are as expected, but that's modern cinema, not Hollywood in particular. That noone took the torch from Audiard or Prevert is a shame.

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Post by jparishy »

Gormo wrote: post #151
jparishy wrote: post #58

The filmmaking industry is constantly flying productions all over the world to avoid paying US labor. Waste of time, money, energy. And the saved money isn't given back to the people making the movie, the unions are still constantly fighting with the industry for basic asks. I don't see a problem here, this is what tariffs are actually for. Broken clock is right twice a day yada yada eta: one can not like the man and…

> The filmmaking industry is constantly flying productions all over the world to avoid paying US labor. Think of all the American jobs that are lost when a film studio chooses to shoot on-location in Paris instead of attempting to build a replica of Paris in Los Angeles. No one ever thinks about all of the construction workers who never get a chance to build a fake Eiffel Tower, or all of the struggling local actors…

mock the actors and builders and hvac technicians all you'd like, sorta reinforces the overall political landscape. not a great look imo

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Post by echelon »

croes wrote: post #154
echelon wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was actually shocked by this tariff. It's a pro-union, pro-labor, classic progressive move. If you haven't been following what's happening with film production, basically production has moved from LA, Atlanta, New York, etc. to cheap countries in Eastern Europe and Asia. A vast majority of IATSE film crew productions have now vacated the US. It's decimated the local film crew workforce and forced many to leave the…

Imagine the costs of any blockbuster if it’s made in the US only

They used to do all principal photography for half of all Marvel films in Atlanta. The industry has almost completely pulled out in just the past three years.

We had a booming, absolutely thriving industry for nearly two decades. People moved from LA to be here. We built hundreds of studios and sound stages. Now they're sitting empty.

Everyone is going to Serbia now. IATSE folks are having to leave the industry entirely.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by d3nj4l »

This makes no sense and people are giving it too much credit. What does “produced” mean? How do you “tariff” a movie? When is the movie crossing the border and who’s doing the valuation, customs check, and so on? There’s literally no substance to this and people are tying themselves into knots to make sense of this.

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Post by hdivider »

jasonjayr wrote: post #127
anonu wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think thats exactly the point though. There is a perception that "left wing ideals" are represented in art and media and that this must end. This explains the executive order to defund NPR and PBS last week.

But isn't this the "free market" at play? Media with so-called "leftist" themes tend to do well commercially than "rightist" themes, so Hollywood just follows the money?

Not sure why you're being downvoted because your points are accurate. Ultra nationalist propaganda wouldn't sell well internationally compared to e.g. Star Wars.

And the current administration does at least purport to follow free market principles. It's just all principles can go out the window for them because , for whatever advances their own power.

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