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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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The filmmaking industry is constantly flying productions all over the world to avoid paying US labor. Waste of time, money, energy. And the saved money isn't given back to the people making the movie, the unions are still constantly fighting with the industry for basic asks. I don't see a problem here, this is what tariffs are actually for. Broken clock is right twice a day yada yada eta: one can not like the man and…

> The filmmaking industry is constantly flying productions all over the world to avoid paying US labor.

Think of all the American jobs that are lost when a film studio chooses to shoot on-location in Paris instead of attempting to build a replica of Paris in Los Angeles. No one ever thinks about all of the construction workers who never get a chance to build a fake Eiffel Tower, or all of the struggling local actors whose attempts to fake French accents will never be heard by audiences, let alone the HVAC technicians who make sure the air conditioners work properly in the indoor studio sets that have to be used to film outdoor scenes in Paris so that the Champs-Élysées doesn't look like Wilshire Boulevard.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

#152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right? It is for the very reasons you cited.

By “protect” you mean “roll back to the 1950’s”, righ? Because Hollywood today was doing quite well and I don’t think I’ve heard a single industry source asking for this. IMO the other shoe here is stronger content restrictions and more government control of what gets made. Easier to do that with US productions, hence the attempt to make everything distributed in the US a US production.

Who isn't asking for something to bring more production home? Studio execs? People in LA, ATL, etc want to work, and every year there is less and less jobs below the line in the US, even though there's more productions overall paid for by US companies. This sentiment you're talking about is at least not universal

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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it s impressive that , despite the US deciding to self-implode there is nobody willing to step in to compete for their place. It's as if the species has culturally peaked after its demographic peak. Europe is already in retirement and US seems to follow. Maybe we'll see African dynamism in a few decades

You have to ask yourself why nobody wants the role. This role has only been a thing for 81 years and the USA is the only 1 dumb enough to ever try to do it.

The EU could do it; basically nobody else is in the ballpark to try. No chance though.

Everyone is looking at Nigeria. More than doubling their population by the end of the century. Extremely healthy population pyramid.

India is soon to be the new Asian superpower. Which sure is wrecking their neighbours with their slower urbanization that is avoiding the WW2 blight.

These 2 are the likely next world order candidates; if they play their cards right.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

#154
post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

I was actually shocked by this tariff. It's a pro-union, pro-labor, classic progressive move. If you haven't been following what's happening with film production, basically production has moved from LA, Atlanta, New York, etc. to cheap countries in Eastern Europe and Asia. A vast majority of IATSE film crew productions have now vacated the US. It's decimated the local film crew workforce and forced many to leave the…

Imagine the costs of any blockbuster if it’s made in the US only

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most non-American movies are slop, melodramatic vaudeville, or tear-jerking gut-punches. Most American movies are slop too, but America can afford to swing at more pitches and consequently get more hits. Have you ever tried to watch Korean movies from the last 20 years? It's all melodramatic romance-crime-poverty slop, with the rare Kim Ki-duk or Bong Joon Ho in there to balance it out. And that's a country with a wo…

Ah yes, the 'slop, melodramatic vaudeville, or tear-jerking gut-punches' of Nuri Bilge Ceylan, Wong Ching-Po, Stephen Chow, John Woo, Emin Alper, Win Wenders, Pedro Almodóvar, Sylvain Chomet, Jean-Pierre Jeunet, Jacques Demy, Lee Chang-dong, Shunji Iwai, Wai Keung Lau, Wong Kar-wai, Hirokazu Koreeda, Park Chan-wook, Tran Anh Hung, Nadine Labaki, Santiago Mitre, ... Yes, the US is a wealthy country, with a big populat…

Predictably, commenters read the word "most" as "every".

Most non-American movies are melodramatic slop, vaudeville slapstick or heart-wrenching soul-destroyers.

Oh really? Well I found one in China that isn't. And here's one from 1970s France that isn't.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

#156

Not sure I follow. Biggest real action movie last year was “Deadpool & Wolverine”, a Disney movie which was shot in UK and made a bit over 50% of its revenue overseas[1]. Its main stars were Canadian and Australian. Does this mean that you’ll have to pay double to go watch it to cinemas in the US? Will that make Disney to focus on the international market? [1] https://the-numbers.com/movie/Deadpool-and-Wolverine-(202…

Since it's about movies produced overseas, I don't think the nationality of the actors or the overseas revenue counts.

But it probaby counts that it was shot in the UK. The reason why Disney does that is because they get tax breaks from the UK government, which I think it's what Trump is referring to.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

#157
post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right? It is for the very reasons you cited.

Protect Hollywood from what? It's the top movie industry in the world, the only way to go from there is going down.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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post #44

I am so looking forward to the sequel of Rome ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_(TV_series) ), filmed in Georgia ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Georgia ). Or the new Lord of The Rings in the Grand Canyon... :)

It’s about the country it’s produced in, not the country it’s recorded in, though?

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Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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post #79
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Defund education then defund culture. Sounds exactly like America First/America Only. Next up is propaganda and filling Americans' minds with only what he wants you to know. He can flood the media as he's been flooding the government, all the pieces are in play. Still nobody putting up a meaningful fight. Your window is closing.

Look to Idiocracy for a documentary of what happens if this keeps going unchecked?

Just rewatched this for thr first time in a decade the other day. I have some serious concerns lmao

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

Growing up in the 70s and 80s in Germany, I've been brainwashed by US movies and sitcoms, 90% of the things I've watched was from the US - Magnum P.I, Simon & Simon, The Fall Guy, Kojak, A-Team, Golden Girls, Mary Taylor Moore, Lou Grant, MacGyver, Knight Rider, Night Court, Family Ties, Miami Vice, The Wonder Years, Facts of Life, Love Boat, and on and on and on.

I know the US better than many parts of Germany.

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