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Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment
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In what way Tesla is ahead of Waymo ?
That is the impression those pronouncements are intending to give. My point is that it may not reflect reality; it's trying to present "we are way ahead", whether they are or not, as reality, in order to incentivise investment in their company, rather than in a competitors, whilst at the same time scaring away those thinking about attempting to compete by making the moat look wider than it is. I legitimately don't kn…
Well I'd wager since the only company operating actual robotaxi service at the moment is Waymo they appear to be ahead
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#393Earlier quoted context omitted.
You fell for Mercedes’ marketing so that’s hilariously ironic
I’m sure that sounded more clever in your head but an actual legal agreement is more than marketing.
Mercedes system is dumber in every way, they merely set the criteria narrow enough to get dibs on L3 for gullible people to repeat on the internet. It’s OBVIOUSLY more dangerous than FSD under the same circumstances.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/1cpwir3/te...
So which company of the two is the one endangering people
Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment
#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tire noise is still quite substantial - use the NIOSH noise meter app on your phone to compare the sound levels on a city block when an EV goes by compared to just bikes and people – and there’s a growing body of evidence that noise levels correlate with worse health and sleep for residents. EVs help, but it’s only partial. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11297122/
> Tire noise is still quite substantial 100% I live near a bus route and their tires and engines are a huge disturbance.
I guess my question is - will Waymo really cause that much more tire noise vs today? Wherever car tires are making noise, I doubt Waymo is going to generate that much _additional_ noise.
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#395Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it's not. I've heard both "This has done things more intelligently than me and prevented errors I would've made" and also "This made errors" Statistically, it's better than human drivers. But of course, if a machine makes an error - it's going to get more headlines.
> Statistically, it's better than human drivers. Tesla has never published the data required to substantiate this claim. Next what you'll post is Tesla's press release where they look at accidents per mile with no segregation by driving type (city, freeway, age of car, weather conditions, etc) Then the next step after that should be for you to say, "huh, it actually is odd that they publish something that purports to…
Fair play - I'll check.
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#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am now convinced that Uber/ride-sharing is responsible for the deterioration in our high-trust societies. Uber made it ok for regular drivers commit road violations with impunity.
> Uber made it ok for regular drivers commit road violations with impunity. Can you say more about this?
My conjecture is that when people started to see non-taxi branded cars just idle on streets without parking, forcing people to cross over lanes around them, it broke a social barrier.
Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment
#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
Waymo is not cheaper than Uber. I don't buy the cost argument tbh.
Explain how a car with a human driver will be cheaper or have price parity with a car that requires no paid human driver. The driver is the most expensive part of every ride. And that's before tip.
Uber outsourced they capital intensive fleet of cars to the drivers. Waymo has no such luxury.
But the main point is: if there is no need to compete in price, companies won't do it. There is no other company offering driverless rides and even if Google were to have huge margins on every ride, they wouldn't lower prices.
Happens all the time that companies literally just choose to not compete in price because people don't have options or just have accepted a specific price level.