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Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by pjmlp »

behnamoh wrote: post #76
pjmlp wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple always has been like that, see The Cult of Mac book. However, it appears being at the edge of bankruptcy, and having turned the ship around has made them paranoid of losing a single cent. When Apple Store came out it was great. I was a Nokia employee at the time, and 30% was a dream compared with what you would have to pay to phone operators, app listenings in magazines with SMS download codes, for Blackberry,…

> However, it appears being at the edge of bankruptcy, and having turned the ship around has made them paranoid of losing a single cent. That was more than 20 years ago, under a totally different market condition and Apple leadership. Back then, they needed developers to turn the ship around, now they think devs need them. They's a cash cow and act like assholes.

There are enough people at Apple from those days, including at management levels.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by TYPE_FASTER »

joezydeco wrote: post #93
pjmlp wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple always has been like that, see The Cult of Mac book. However, it appears being at the edge of bankruptcy, and having turned the ship around has made them paranoid of losing a single cent. When Apple Store came out it was great. I was a Nokia employee at the time, and 30% was a dream compared with what you would have to pay to phone operators, app listenings in magazines with SMS download codes, for Blackberry,…

"In 2013 i met a very close friend of Steve Jobs and i remember saying "there's one thing i absolutely have to know, it's really important to me" he responds "okay what is it?" I ask "what was all the money for?!" puzzled "what do you mean?" "Steve Jobs saved up like 200 billion dollars in cash at Apple, but what was it all for? what was the plan? was he going to buy AT&T? was he going to build his own telecom or mak…

Also, Apple was down to 90 days of operating cash and almost went bankrupt in 1997.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by thrill »

dataflow wrote: post #14

Is there any reason to believe anyone will even get charged, let alone face trial, let alone convicted? And if so is there any reason to believe they won't be pardoned upon a conviction?

"is there any reason to believe they won't be pardoned"

Shortly after the next unexplained bull market in $TRUMP a pardon will appear along with direct links to their upcoming subscription service conveniently preloaded and un-delete-able from the iPhone Home Screen.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by layer8 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #81
pjmlp wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple always has been like that, see The Cult of Mac book. However, it appears being at the edge of bankruptcy, and having turned the ship around has made them paranoid of losing a single cent. When Apple Store came out it was great. I was a Nokia employee at the time, and 30% was a dream compared with what you would have to pay to phone operators, app listenings in magazines with SMS download codes, for Blackberry,…

> has made them paranoid of losing a single cent. I get the exact same feeling. They're afraid of collapsing despite being way ahead.

They aren't that much ahead anymore.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by _aavaa_ »

nostromo wrote: post #40
Workaccount2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't blame them, Americans on the whole fall over themselves to defend Apple. Apple is the magic entity that figured out how to send full videos and pictures in text messages. Something a google android could never figure out. Apple phones didn't come bloated with garbage. You go to the apple store for help rather than the verizon store. You are above others when you have an iPhone. Apple's external veneer is s…

I want Apple to protect me from app developers. For me, it’s a feature not a bug. I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps. I want them to integrate billing so I can easily cancel subscriptions or get refunds. I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers. These features make my customer experience better not worse. I’m sorry…

> I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps.

Apple is the one who implements the advertising ID companies use to track you. And preventing that tracking is a os-level feature, not a thing they review out of app.

> I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers.

You are describing a private email address.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

tomp wrote: post #92
nostromo wrote: post #40

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I want Apple to protect me from app developers. For me, it’s a feature not a bug. I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps. I want them to integrate billing so I can easily cancel subscriptions or get refunds. I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers. These features make my customer experience better not worse. I’m sorry…

All those are awesome features, and I use them all the time. But that's no reason to prevent them from being opt-out. It should be possible to not use OAuth, integrated billing, social media tracking etc.

> that's no reason to prevent them from being opt-out

I’m genuinely surprised Meta and e.g. Citrix haven’t launched their own app stores in the EU. Maybe GDPR disincentivises the worst shenanigans.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by crims0n »

torben-friis wrote: post #7

>Internally, Phillip Schiller had advocated that Apple comply with the Injunction, but Tim Cook ignored Schiller and instead allowed Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri and his finance team to convince him otherwise. Cook chose poorly. The real evidence, detailed herein, more than meets the clear and convincing standard to find a violation. Judging by tech, apple is right now in deep water due to the failure of deli…

> Judging by political positioning, cook’s donation to trump’s inauguration didn’t sit well with the fanbase.

On the other hand, it may have saved his company billions on tariffs.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by spacedcowboy »

gostsamo wrote: post #77
nostromo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want Apple to protect me from app developers. For me, it’s a feature not a bug. I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps. I want them to integrate billing so I can easily cancel subscriptions or get refunds. I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers. These features make my customer experience better not worse. I’m sorry…

If you don't like social media, don't use it. Isn't that what all apple fans tell when someone dislikes apple practices?

This is good advice. I do that. HN and occasional reddit browsing (on the "old" design, the "new" one sucks ass) is where I draw the line.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by TheDong »

nostromo wrote: post #40
Workaccount2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't blame them, Americans on the whole fall over themselves to defend Apple. Apple is the magic entity that figured out how to send full videos and pictures in text messages. Something a google android could never figure out. Apple phones didn't come bloated with garbage. You go to the apple store for help rather than the verizon store. You are above others when you have an iPhone. Apple's external veneer is s…

I want Apple to protect me from app developers. For me, it’s a feature not a bug. I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps. I want them to integrate billing so I can easily cancel subscriptions or get refunds. I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers. These features make my customer experience better not worse. I’m sorry…

We're on Hacker News, not Granny News.

Being a hacker means having curiosity about the things around you, having the desire to be able to change and understand things.

On android, I wrote small toy apps for myself, I could build and self-sign an APK, I could poke at how the system worked and read all the source code I wanted.

Tragically, due to blue bubbles and group chats within my family, I was forced to switch to iOS, and I thought sure, it wouldn't be so bad...

No, it sucks for hackers, you can't build and sign apps from linux reliably, you need an apple account and to pay $100 even if you do have a macbook, the APIs are limited, you can't see the source code for the most of the kernel or platform, apple has a ton of APIs you're not allowed to use.

My firefox addons I developed for myself installed fine on android, but I can't even use those on iOS.

I want apple to let me use the device I paid for.

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