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Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by giancarlostoro »

pjmlp wrote: post #27
post_break wrote: post #15

The top brass at Apple just think they are above everyone else. Remember when Tim Cook lied about Apple not giving anyone special terms in the app store and that everyone gets the same deal. And then it came out Netflix was one that got special terms? The sheer arrogance of Apple leaders is astounding. They think they are outright owed rent on anything that runs on an iPhone, iPad, etc. Apple thinks developers are no…

Apple always has been like that, see The Cult of Mac book. However, it appears being at the edge of bankruptcy, and having turned the ship around has made them paranoid of losing a single cent. When Apple Store came out it was great. I was a Nokia employee at the time, and 30% was a dream compared with what you would have to pay to phone operators, app listenings in magazines with SMS download codes, for Blackberry,…

> has made them paranoid of losing a single cent.

I get the exact same feeling. They're afraid of collapsing despite being way ahead.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by jtmarl1n »

rythmshifter wrote: post #41
Workaccount2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't blame them, Americans on the whole fall over themselves to defend Apple. Apple is the magic entity that figured out how to send full videos and pictures in text messages. Something a google android could never figure out. Apple phones didn't come bloated with garbage. You go to the apple store for help rather than the verizon store. You are above others when you have an iPhone. Apple's external veneer is s…

"americans on the whole" blanket statements like this are never accurate

Your comment also makes a blanket statement.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by mullingitover »

mperham wrote: post #49
nostromo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want Apple to protect me from app developers. For me, it’s a feature not a bug. I want them to prevent social media companies from tracking my device across my other apps. I want them to integrate billing so I can easily cancel subscriptions or get refunds. I want them to require Oauth that allows me to keep my email private from app developers. These features make my customer experience better not worse. I’m sorry…

None of that requires a 30% cut.

Kinda dishonest to cite that 30% number when most developers don't pay it. The fee has been 15% for years now if your revenues are under $1M.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by burnte »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #35
post_break wrote: post #15

The top brass at Apple just think they are above everyone else. Remember when Tim Cook lied about Apple not giving anyone special terms in the app store and that everyone gets the same deal. And then it came out Netflix was one that got special terms? The sheer arrogance of Apple leaders is astounding. They think they are outright owed rent on anything that runs on an iPhone, iPad, etc. Apple thinks developers are no…

I wouldn't blame them, Americans on the whole fall over themselves to defend Apple. Apple is the magic entity that figured out how to send full videos and pictures in text messages. Something a google android could never figure out. Apple phones didn't come bloated with garbage. You go to the apple store for help rather than the verizon store. You are above others when you have an iPhone. Apple's external veneer is s…

> Americans on the whole fall over themselves to defend Apple

No, we don't. Apple fans from all nations do, but there is literally zero national pride in Apple.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by nostromo »

roamerz wrote: post #73
mperham wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of that requires a 30% cut.

Requires, no but in all regards it’s a great deal for app developers. You write code they do everything else. You want options? They exist (Windows/Android) but are all shitified minefields of commercial ads and poor design choices that I only use when required. Is Apple perfect? No far from it. When I buy and use their products though I feel more like the customer than the product. It’s a tool built for me not their…

This is correct.

App devs hate "paying" the 30% cut, but often aren't smart enough to realize that they make more on iOS than Android specifically because it's a high-trust environment and people trust that Apple has their back.

There's a reason most of us app devs make most of our money on Apple devices.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by udev4096 »

torben-friis wrote: post #7

>Internally, Phillip Schiller had advocated that Apple comply with the Injunction, but Tim Cook ignored Schiller and instead allowed Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri and his finance team to convince him otherwise. Cook chose poorly. The real evidence, detailed herein, more than meets the clear and convincing standard to find a violation. Judging by tech, apple is right now in deep water due to the failure of deli…

Cook is getting cooked

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by burnte »

jtmarl1n wrote: post #82
rythmshifter wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"americans on the whole" blanket statements like this are never accurate

Your comment also makes a blanket statement.

That's the joke. All generalizations are false.

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by rideontime »

vessenes wrote: post #79

In the words of a trial lawyer friend of mine, “Nobody in the history of the world has said, ‘You know what? The judge was right; I was an asshole.’ Definitely some of those vibes there. I’ve generally been on team apple for this case, and as Gruber notes, they largely won the case. Dunking on their power to set other contractual fees seems to have come back to bite them. That said, as a user, I strongly prefer to us…

I'm unable to find where Gruber says that Apple "largely won" (not that I would be surprised to see Gruber making such a claim). His latest headline literally begins with "Apple lost." Where are you seeing that?

Re: Judge rules Apple executive lied under oath, makes criminal contempt referral

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Post by behnamoh »

philistine wrote: post #21

Tim Cook has overstayed his welcome. He should have left years ago at this point. That plus the fact that all his successors are built on the same nondescript mold he came out of, does not bode well for the strategic vision of Apple.

> Tim Cook has overstayed his welcome.

This isn't the first time an influential leader (like Jobs) chooses the next leader only for everyone to realize the next person isn't a "leader" type, but rather someone who was put in charge to maintain the status quo, not tarnish the previous leader's legacy, and not come up with crazy new ideas.

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