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Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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There was an interview with a shipping manager somewhere (probably the 3-hour documentary by Gamers Nexus?). They said absolutely have been rerouting container ships in transit.

But these ships are carrying containers for many different companies, right? If some companies want the goods now and other companies need to hold off, how does that work? Just whoever's shipping the most goods wins?

Most container ships aren’t enormous behemoths

The more reasonable sized ones and the specialized ones (especially the car ones) often service a single buyer at a time

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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The media is also extremely critical of shooting yourself in the face. Is that bias? Or sensible?

Implying the media is sensible is hilarious

Is the media biased against shoot-yourself-in-the-facers?

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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A neutral stance isn’t an uncritical stance. It’s undeserved praise vs undeserved damnation that signifies a non neutral position.

The media is far from neutral. Almost all have a major left bias. Fox has a major right bias.

Not when you look at objective metrics of bias such as sentiment analysis or track time spent on positive vs neutral vs negative coverage of various issues. Of course that’s in relation to US political parties, pick a different ‘center’ and you can get any answer you want for how the media is biased overall.

Objectively FOX isn’t pure propaganda they do include some coverage critical of R politicians and policies. It’s just far less than say CNN spends on coverage critical of D politicians and policies.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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The Republicans are the party of Trump. You're going to get nowhere near 20 out of 53 to convict. They will not let him get thrown out of office. If they didn't vote for impeachment in the two times he was impeached in his first term, and if they supported him after January 6th then they're not going to vote for impeachment now. The Republicans under Nixon were the same party in name only, and they did not have the s…

The senate is less the party of Trump as they have to win state wide elections and Trump barely beat Harris. They also tend to have longer tenures that spans presidents. While he is ascendant he can command loyalty, but once his ship is sinking the rats will abandon him faster in the senate than the house. The house takes care of itself with its relatively rapid turnover, making incumbents more likely to stick by him…

Small but important nitpick: Senators first have to win their primaries. That's where they're most vulnerable. Followed by fund raising (access to major donors), probably.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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This could get really ugly when the shelves start going empty. This may make the toilet paper incident seem quaint in comparison.

A Walmart superstore is stacked to the gills with products of all description.

What makes lots of money is not exactly having so many different choices stocked, instead having a good proportion of items "fly off the shelf" can be the focus.

The high-performance store will have numerous shelves completely clear every day, sometimes more than once per day, and they are perfectly geared to accommodate that when it happens without waiting until the more-organized nightly re-stocking.

The store is huge, and if a big shelf stays clear for any length of time it's quite noticeable. But can still represent the tip of the iceberg if that also means that quite a big multiple of inventory is also absent from "behind the curtain" in the warehouses and upstream.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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post #635

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>Balance trade? Trade isn't a single ledger that needs to be in balance. By definition, global exports must be matched with global imports to sum to zero, unless if you are trading with aliens. This is basic double-entry accounting and mainstream economics. >Nobody in the USA makes cast iron in the volume needed by haas; nobody in the USA makes PCBs at the price point needed by haas. Nobody's going to be able to star…

Do you have balanced trade with your gas station? With your dentist? The double entry book keeping has to balance after all. Oh, you use money, and each party has their own ledger. Maybe your dentist is taking advantage of you, but it isn't because they never exchange your gasoline for polishing your molars. Let's go back to a real world example -- a successful machine tool manufacturer in the united states, theoreti…

>Do you have balanced trade with your gas station? With your dentist? The double entry book keeping has to balance after all. Oh, you use money, and each party has their own ledger. Maybe your dentist is taking advantage of you, but it isn't because they never exchange your gasoline for polishing your molars.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bop.asp#:~:text=The%20s...

I'm talking about global trade balance, your example is examining trade relations from a individual perspective that ignores the activities of other actors, when you need to be looking at the global sum of all exports and imports of all the actors involved. Namely put, in a closed economy, the sum of all the credits and debits between you, the gas station, dentist, etc will sum to zero. The economy of Earth in a similar manner is a closed system, we're not trading with aliens here. This is mainstream economics, you're going to woo-land if you're trying to deny this.

>and the only possible market is ... haas automation? Never going to happen. Instead, haas will just raise prices and lose market.

If the only possible market is Haas Automation then it's economically insignificant and not reflective of larger structural changes in the US economy. But that's a highly dubious assumption. Like I said, the US economy dosen't run on exports, the vast majority is consumption. The incentives are there to raise up entire supply chain given the massive profits involved here.

The thing about the blanket tariff negotiation tactic is that on the flipside, it is true that many of these nations very much were pursuing their own forms of economic nationalism with heavy protectionism and tariffs. For as much as American economists like to say that deficits don't matter, China, Vietnam, Germany, Japan all seem quite intent on maintaining a persistent surplus, whether through buying bonds to weaken their currency, heavy subsidies, or demand suppression at home to bring down wages. It's a bit absurd to expect American to uphold the principles of free trade while simultaneously turning a blind eye to the mercantalism of other nations. What Trump is doing is highly destructive, and there are better ways to negotiate, but it's a problem really that these surplus nations have created from the last few decades. And it's a problem not just for America, but for much of the developing world that will find to increasingly hard to climb up the value chain so long as China is dominating global exports.

No doubt there will be a recession, but on the long term, it will work. But for other countries, the situation will much worse because you cannot increase demand in the same way you can raise supply chains. That's why it's more likely that negotiated settlement similar to the Plaza Accords will occur, really in the question of whether we all seriously adhere to the principles of a free trade, or we collapse in a mercantalist free for all. In the world of a former, trade balances would close to zero because of the self-balancing currency effects of imbalances.

If you actually read the literature before Trump, this is something that has been talked about by Keynes, by Bernanke, by Stiglitz, by Katherine Tao, even admitted to a certain extent by Krugman. The hysterics of modern politics is that notion that "trade deficits aren't necessairly bad" has shifted to "trade deficits are never bad", when there are specific conditions when trade deficits are symptomatic of larger problems, and those conditions may be apparent right now for USA.

https://www.wita.org/blogs/keynes-support-tariffs/#:~:text=K...

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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People seem to think, including very disturbingly our secretary of the Treasury, the companies maintain huge warehouses of back stock. That hasn't been the case since the mid-90s when the PC revolution started pushing out supply chain management software. If I recall correctly, Walmart was the innovator in this space in one of their key ways to gain economic advantage over other retailers was low back stock demand tr…

> That hasn't been the case since the mid-90s when the PC revolution started pushing out supply chain management software. I worked on PC software for optimizing warehouse inventory in the mid-1980s. The system was designed by an applied mathematician and used by large national companies. Customers made substantial savings - double digit percentages of inventory cost.

When you trim to the bone it's not entirely dissimilar to the kind of savings that can be achieved in other ways.

In the 1970's, when Nixon launched his recession after an equivalent lead-up, I worked at the University for one semester in a work-study job. They only paid minimum wage, and these were easy jobs like library assistants where you were expected to be able to study about half the time.

But you were working for the State just like all other State employees.

You know, the maintenance people, the professors, highway patrol, capitol admin staff, etc. Career employees.

Like everyone else, you had to wait two weeks after starting work before you would receive your first paycheck.

About halfway through the semester it got so bad they decided to hold paychecks for two more weeks.

:\

You mean everybody who worked for the State just didn't get anything for two weeks until it picked back up again?

Yup.

At the end of the semester I was made whole because my checks still kept coming in for a couple more weeks after I was no longer employed there.

"Just like" the career employees who would be collecting for a couple extra weeks themselves decades later after they retire.

Well, it was a recession, what do you want, prosperity? That ship sailed a long time ago :\

The source of prosperity done receded.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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Wouldn't there be an excess of containers?

No because containers are in high demand overall. While the US is importing less, stuff to the EU is taking the long way around Africa and that means more containers are needed.

>While the US is importing less, stuff to the EU is taking the long way around Africa and that means more containers are needed.

OK, then the unavailability of containers is actually due to piracy in the middle east.

The US importing less, by itself, decreases the demand for containers.

Re: Port of Los Angeles says shipping volume will plummet 35% next week

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post #336

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> Imports from China are ~40% of all US imports You mean 14%? https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports-by-countr...

That's by value. I reckon since Chinese imported goods tend to be cheaper they probably make up a greater number than the value percentage would indicate. So I suspect 40% figure is how many items in a typical household are from China. Edit: in case that's not clear, here's an example: I have one item from the USA that costs $80. I have four items from China that cost $5 each. My imports from China are 20% of my spen…

It is clear what you are saying. It still doesn't make any sense.

If I buy a bottle of wine, a chicken, a cake, and a pint of blueberries, is it correct to say that my diet is 99% fruits? There are more than a 100 of blueberries in the pint after all.

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