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Firefox tab groups are here

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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#211

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

I use Vivaldi which has had excellent support for tab groups (as "Workspaces") for quite a while now.

At work and at home, I always have multiple projects ongoing at the same time. I use one tab group per project. I typically have my notes for that project in the first tab and then other tabs contain documentation, reference material, forum threads, search engine queries, and whatever else that I want OPEN and AVAILABLE while I'm working so that I'm not always wasting time closing and opening tabs that I keep coming back to.

This way, when I switch between projects, I just select the tab group for that project and everything is exactly the way I left it last time. Didn't have to remember to manually save anything beforehand last time, or manually restore a folder of bookmarks or whatever.

Why not use bookmarks? For me, bookmarks are only ever used for links that I go to semi-regularly to regularly. I will NEVER add a bookmark to a site that I visit once, or might want to go back to again, because eventually you have to dedicate time to sorting, cleaning up, reorganizing, deleting them. And I HATE curating things.

Why not use browser history? Because it's full of all kinds of garbage which can hard to sort through and because my browser history only goes back about 6 months. I don't need (or want) to keep my history forever because it just needlessly fills up the disk and becomes a liability if my computer ever gets compromised. And sometimes my projects go longer than that.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#212

These HN threads with people that have 20K tabs living for years are so wild! I guess I'm the only savage in the world who closes my browser window and quits the browser application whenever I'm done with my computer for the day. I occasionally use tabs to temporarily have one or two web pages open at a time, usually because I need to browse/compare both of them actively, but when I'm not actively reading a page, I s…

I do tend to let tabs accumulate, but then I turn off my PC at the end of the day and let all tabs fall into the void.

I like to start the day with a blank slate. Which seems to be such an uncommon thing to do that I couldn't convince FF on my last few Linux installs not to restore tabs when reopening. I've changed the obvious settings for it, I've set the flags in about:config, I've even completely disabled crash recovery and related features. It would still always reopen the last session

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#213
It's worth remembering that Firefox HAD tab groups before, just under a different name and then killed it because "nobody used it":

https://medium.com/@twidi/how-i-survived-the-removal-of-pano...

The implementation here is a bit different, I'm sure, but the core idea is the same: Group your tabs however you like and switch between the groups at will.

I use Vivaldi these days (thanks to it's excellent UI customization and "Workspaces" tab groups) so I don't see myself going back to Firefox. Maybe this is a new trend of FF devs actually adding features instead of only removing them. I guess we'll see how long this one lasts.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#215

> What happens when 4,500 people ask for the same feature? At Firefox, we build it. That's allegedly less people asking for the feature than the tabs I have open or 0.0028% of the user base. I don't believe it.

That's the critical limit. They build it in as a non-removable addon and reenable it every update. Anything more popular is not allowed! /s

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#216

These HN threads with people that have 20K tabs living for years are so wild! I guess I'm the only savage in the world who closes my browser window and quits the browser application whenever I'm done with my computer for the day. I occasionally use tabs to temporarily have one or two web pages open at a time, usually because I need to browse/compare both of them actively, but when I'm not actively reading a page, I s…

If you were really hardcore you'd erase your entire OS whenever you're done for the day: https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/

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#217
If I could assign a bookmark to a container, that would be great.

I don’t like Sidebery and it doesn’t really work for me.

Another thing that annoys me in Firefox is that they recently changed the sidebar. I still use Firefox though.

Rant over.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#218

"What happens when 4,500 people ask for the same feature? At Firefox, we build it." What a weird flex. I think if you make >700 million dollars a year you should have someone driving instead of feature farming the comments section.

What a weird way to say they shouldn't listen to their users.

The parent is clearly bemoaning the lack of apparent creativity that comes from a FOSS golden child.

Yes, implement generic features like vertical tabs (but who wouldn't implement them at this point without nesting?), but some creative experiments in UI/UX that seek to improve the browsing experience might also be possible?

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a different question to ask "how will you access it?" and "have you abandoned the hope of accessing it again?" Sometimes they come up in my search results in the Omnibar. Open tabs are in the top rank of results.

The omnibar feature also searches your bookmarks and history, so they are recoverable using the same method if you closed the tab. But that depends on you thinking to bookmark the page; or accepting that some things will age out of the browser history. So I guess it's kind of like a fragile bookmark: probably reliable, but not the end of the world if tab restoration failed for some reason. Also, (I assume) tabs retai…

The tab will also have the context around it (in form of other tabs). When you often switch between various tech stacks/frameworks and open 30 pages of documentation for each one, it's useful to be able to restore all of it easily without messing with bookmarks (that haven't improved in the slightest over the past two decades).

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

#220
post #25

Is this a superior solution to the firefox containers add on?

Seems different to me. Containers allow you to have different cookies per container.

I think I'd combine the two features, each tab group having it's own container. I'm sure some use would lose their space-bar actuated room heater or whatever the relevant xkcd is.
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