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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by coldpie »

perihelions wrote: post #195
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

- "Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for?" Why are you qualifying "normal" there? I have thousands of tabs open because I have infinite curiosity and a psychological deficit of attention span. An open tab is earnest expression of a curiosity one is unlikely to actualize in this short life. > "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?"

So, suppose you have 2200 tabs open right now. Under what circumstances would you open, say, the 330th tab from the left? How would you access it?

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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coldpie wrote: post #201
perihelions wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- "Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for?" Why are you qualifying "normal" there? I have thousands of tabs open because I have infinite curiosity and a psychological deficit of attention span. An open tab is earnest expression of a curiosity one is unlikely to actualize in this short life. > "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?"

So, suppose you have 2200 tabs open right now. Under what circumstances would you open, say, the 330th tab from the left? How would you access it?

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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by badgersnake »

smilliken wrote: post #143
badgersnake wrote: post #121

Shame Google Meet doesn’t work anymore.

Works in firefox for many people I work with. Perhaps worth troubleshooting? Or maybe Google serves different bits to different people.

Camera frequently fails to work at all, or takes 45 seconds to detect. Audio is flakey, sometime mic doesn’t work at all. Not to mention GitHub is unusable, they seem to have done something to the comments view that doesn’t really work. And the Trello GitHub plugin doesn’t work at all.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by jiehong »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…

Safari tends to do a good job at that too.

I currently have 867 tabs on Firefox desktop, and 495 in Safari mobile on my phone (I need to start cleaning safari, because weird things happen at 500 when a new tabs is opened).

Safari on desktop also keeps tabs unloaded when re-opening a window.

I just wish safari would allow me to hide the top tab bar when I open the vertical sidebar (if someone knows how to do that, let me know!).

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by hysan »

Spunkie wrote: post #155
surajrmal wrote: post #19

Why did it take so long? It was their number one request for 3 years and chrome pushed this feature nearly 5 years ago. The design looks like a straight copy of chrome so it's not like there was a large design process to work out. It feels like it was finally prioritized so that they could "improve" it with ai, similar to what chrome is doing.

I think it was just stubbornness, pure and simple. Firefox actually had a feature like tab groups a long time ago. It was removed for "low usage" and ever since then they have been resisting reimplementing it. Anyways it still needs improvement but I am very happy to see this finally land. At work we have been moving everyone off of chrome after the manifest v3 shenanigans and the lack of tabs groups was a long stand…

This sums up my experience with everything Firefox. It's why it slowly fell behind in UX and stopped being my primary browser ages ago. I keep giving it a try every year, but the gap between FF and other browsers just keeps getting wider and wider. This is a nice small step, but FF has a long way to go to catchup.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by perihelions »

coldpie wrote: post #201
perihelions wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- "Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for?" Why are you qualifying "normal" there? I have thousands of tabs open because I have infinite curiosity and a psychological deficit of attention span. An open tab is earnest expression of a curiosity one is unlikely to actualize in this short life. > "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?"

So, suppose you have 2200 tabs open right now. Under what circumstances would you open, say, the 330th tab from the left? How would you access it?

It's a different question to ask "how will you access it?" and "have you abandoned the hope of accessing it again?"

Sometimes they come up in my search results in the Omnibar. Open tabs are in the top rank of results.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by HSO »

ryandrake wrote: post #200

These HN threads with people that have 20K tabs living for years are so wild! I guess I'm the only savage in the world who closes my browser window and quits the browser application whenever I'm done with my computer for the day. I occasionally use tabs to temporarily have one or two web pages open at a time, usually because I need to browse/compare both of them actively, but when I'm not actively reading a page, I s…

I´m pretty much the same now.

I tried bookmarking everything in a dated folder "just in case" blabla but I always ended up either forgetting the site or if I really need it find and reopen it the normal way.

Since I transitioned to Obsidian recently I wrote a few simple macros to put the link into my "daily note". Add a few tags or even a comment if I am so inclined and boom, so far when I really want to find sth back I can actually search for it in my own notes.

Much better than a bunch of tabs!

(It helps that I´m currently on a really small machine (8 GB RAM) so that gives some discipline)

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by MisterTea »

canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

> Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for?

Because book marking sucks as there's no associated metadata on the site behind the link. You have to insert that data yourself by changing the page description. How do I search my links for battery charging if the link that leads to battery charging is joe6pack.com/foo?bla=foiuewyrocv9yetn75y9087wn7y9ewsygbatmobile? History is similar and something I dont want to bother with.

It's easier to just leave the tabs open and come back to them later. I do this all the time with sites like bandcamp, shopping sites, and so on - open a bunch of tabs and slowly work through them. I might have upwards of 50+ tabs open at times but they are mostly short lived, lasting a few days until I get frustrated and go on a tab nuking spree.

These days I manually maintain my own bookmarks in flat text files arranged by subject with my own metadata and just use grep. The link goes on one line, the next lines are "meta data" followed by a blank line. The list is mainly filled with stuff I really want to find again in the future so I put in the effort.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by coldpie »

perihelions wrote: post #207
coldpie wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, suppose you have 2200 tabs open right now. Under what circumstances would you open, say, the 330th tab from the left? How would you access it?

It's a different question to ask "how will you access it?" and "have you abandoned the hope of accessing it again?" Sometimes they come up in my search results in the Omnibar. Open tabs are in the top rank of results.

The omnibar feature also searches your bookmarks and history, so they are recoverable using the same method if you closed the tab.

But that depends on you thinking to bookmark the page; or accepting that some things will age out of the browser history. So I guess it's kind of like a fragile bookmark: probably reliable, but not the end of the world if tab restoration failed for some reason.

Also, (I assume) tabs retain their Previous Page list, which also has some value.

Interesting. Thanks for the discussion!

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