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> Sources for your allegations ? not an allegation. You should avoid big words if you dont know what they mean. > The statistics I saw, showed in contrary an increase in suicide rates. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11063965/ Surgery is not a common part of transitioning. Transitioning treatment, which is what I said, is usually a process where the most common plans include hormone replacement therapy, pube…
I read the study, the author is much less affirmative than you and spends a lot of time explaining that the data is really subpar: "A dearth of high-quality studies that evaluate outcomes in suicide following gender-affirming treatment poses severe limitations on the extent of claims made during the informed consent process for gender-affirming treatment. An abundance of claims that are not backed by evidence does no…
Way to read that in the worst way possible. Their biggest issue was how disparate the data was. I shared that one because it had the largest sample of papers, but there are plenty of other meta studies, and individual studies with the same conclusions
The website "What does scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition" by Cornell university did a review of 55 papers, found 0 that said it caused harm and 93% that said they improved life for trans people.
For an individual paper with good peer review and sample you can read Mental Health outcomes in Transgender and Non binary youth receving gender affirming care by Dana Tondoff, where they found that there was a 73% decrese in suicidicality and 60% decrease in depression.
Like its not group think when no one has done any research showing it does not work and plenty have shown it does
> Also, you use a classic motte-and-bailey tactic here, to limit treatments to hormonal ones, excluding surgical.
its not a tactic, it is literally the most common prescribed treatment for gender dysphoria. its like discussing cancer, teh most common treatments are surgery and chemotherapy. Some people get radiotherapy and they have much worse outcomes, because they were in a worse spot to begin with, not because radiotherapy does not work...
> Regarding young girls, we didn't have problems before.
but according to you all these spaces were created to safe them from perverts. So no problems, other than the rampant perverts?
> So I don't see why you're looking for a special "method" for this.
because you wanna enforce gender discrimination spaces based on genetials. So someone gotta check you got the right ones, or else a pervert could go in. So to "protect" your daughter you now have a way more invasive system than just letting people pee
> And whatever the status of trans people, a pervert could well say that he is one to enter in safe spaces for women
So the problem is not transpeople but perverts pretending to be trans people. So we should punish transpeople to protect girls from the perverts pretending to be trans people. Should we not just deal with the perverts and leave the transpeople alone?
> . We see this already well in sports, and with the obvious, and sometimes dangerous problems associated.
there have been 0 issues with transpeople in sports. The IOC has allowed trans women in the olympics since 2004, they have won 0 medals.
if transitioning was an overt advantage, if transwomen would 100% beat regular women then every medal would be won by a transowman. However its literally never happened.
The only cases of transpeople in sports that get discussed are Lia Thomas, a university swimmer (who won 1 race) and who is like 1 minute behind the best times of Katie Ledecky which is a cis swimmer. And thats about it.
The only scientific review of trans people in sports was done in the US army and they found no significant advantage in strength after 1 year in HRT and only 15% in cardio but the sports assoc always recommend 2 years on HRT and Athletes are 40-70% faster than regular women so transwomen would still be 30-50% slower than them. transitioning also makes you lose 60% of your muscle mass, the controlled test means they suually have lower levels than regular women and the "denser" muscles tend to get tired quicker due to worse oxygenation.
Transwomen in sports is a non issue, and the more it gets repeated the more it proves that the people who are against trans people simply have not thought about for longer than "oh a man shouldnt compete against women" and never again.
An average girl is 5'6, and average man is 5'9 so transwomen should dominate in basketball. Except the average WNBA player is 6'2.
Transwomen will never win in sports because athletes are the end of the tail distribution and transowomen are randomly sampled. A selected sample will always beat a random sample if the distributions are close.
if I have a dice with 5 numbers and I can throw it 100 times and pick the 3 highest, and you have a die that goes up to 6 but you only throw it once, I basically always gonna beat you.