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Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by alex_duf »

dyauspitr wrote: post #42
rwyinuse wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, there is a reason why South Korea continues to break records for the lowest fertility rate in the world, making even Japan's birth rate issues look small in comparison. Their society appears to be deeply, deeply sick in numerous ways. Not a good place to live, unless your calling is to work all your waking hours to make the rich even richer.

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Sure, I mean using force and coercion is one way to obtain what you want!

Not sure that's the society I want my daughters to live in though, maybe there's a way to have both equal rights and promote family values?

Like having access to healthcare, reduce the social stigma of being a parent, ensuring there's support for new families, keeping the cost down... Etc!

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by Probuin »

djur wrote: post #31
Probuin wrote: post #25

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How is it not misandry? A law targeting men to deny them even the illusion of love and happiness, punishable by years in prison. A peaceful, albeit distasteful, fleeting solution to their complete rejection by society. I don't see why it's anyone's business, least of all the law. It's cruel. It's spiteful.

How is the law targeting men? As far as I know, it's just as illegal for women to create and possess deepfake porn. And, again: you do not need deepfake porn to have love and happiness, even an illusion of it. I personally think better of men than to think that a fake nudie pic of the neighbor's wife would be the keystone of their mental wellbeing. If anything is misandry, it's thinking of men as a bunch of sex-craze…

What gives you the right to claim that or police that, though?

May I decree that women do not need social media to have love or happiness so it's ok to ban it, under threat of imprisonment if they access it?

Is anything arbitrarily open to prohibition if it doesn't meet your extraordinarily high bar of being the "keystone of mental wellbeing"?

What sick joy do you derive from depriving peaceful lonely desperate men this one small outlet? It's misandry.

All porn disgusts me and yet your cruelty and total lack of empathy is so repugnant that, unbelievably, I'm here batting for coomers. Bravo.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by dyauspitr »

alex_duf wrote: post #51
dyauspitr wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Sure, I mean using force and coercion is one way to obtain what you want! Not sure that's the society I want my daughters to live in though, maybe there's a way to have both equal rights and promote family values? Like having access to healthcare, reduce the social stigma of being a parent, ensuring there's support for new families, keeping the cost down... Etc!

Maybe, a lot of Europe has excellent governmental support systems in place and they still have very low birth rates.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by Probuin »

brabel wrote: post #50
Probuin wrote: post #20

I understand the laws against distribution, but can anyone explain why creating/possessing deep-faked porn for private use is so morally reprehensible or even criminal? I can't identify a victim in this scenario. Whose business is it? I genuinely couldn't care less if someone did this "to" me, but then I recognise that as a middle aged dude that's not ever happening so I may have a blind spot here. How would I even k…

It’s indeed thought police. But i suppose there’s a huge difference when the material is used for blackmail… and there’s also a risk it may be stolen and then shared publicly in which case it can be devastating for the victim. But if you keep the material well hidden it’s similar to if it was just in your imagination and hopefully that’s not illegal yet.

That's exactly my point though. It is. From the article:

>in September, legislators passed an amendment that made possessing and viewing deepfake porn punishable by up to three years in prison.

This is insane.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by nathanaldensr »

dyauspitr wrote: post #42
rwyinuse wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, there is a reason why South Korea continues to break records for the lowest fertility rate in the world, making even Japan's birth rate issues look small in comparison. Their society appears to be deeply, deeply sick in numerous ways. Not a good place to live, unless your calling is to work all your waking hours to make the rich even richer.

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Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by closewith »

dyauspitr wrote: post #42
rwyinuse wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, there is a reason why South Korea continues to break records for the lowest fertility rate in the world, making even Japan's birth rate issues look small in comparison. Their society appears to be deeply, deeply sick in numerous ways. Not a good place to live, unless your calling is to work all your waking hours to make the rich even richer.

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> However women would have to give up a lot of their hard won rights.

That's nonsense. Across the developed world, economic pressure on young people is reducing the options available to them. Many more couples would have more children if the economic barriers were removed, including the impact on career and cost of childcare.

Of course, developed nations will (hopefully) never return to the 5+ children per woman which sustained and grew the world population for millennia.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by polskibus »

dyauspitr wrote: post #54
alex_duf wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, I mean using force and coercion is one way to obtain what you want! Not sure that's the society I want my daughters to live in though, maybe there's a way to have both equal rights and promote family values? Like having access to healthcare, reduce the social stigma of being a parent, ensuring there's support for new families, keeping the cost down... Etc!

Maybe, a lot of Europe has excellent governmental support systems in place and they still have very low birth rates.

They are higher than South Korea. One big factor remains which are very high property prices and rents. People have a choice and want their kids to have space. If they cannot afford it then often they choose not to have kids (or have 1 less).

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by PaulRobinson »

dyauspitr wrote: post #42
rwyinuse wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, there is a reason why South Korea continues to break records for the lowest fertility rate in the world, making even Japan's birth rate issues look small in comparison. Their society appears to be deeply, deeply sick in numerous ways. Not a good place to live, unless your calling is to work all your waking hours to make the rich even richer.

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If you ever think the solution to a problem is to remove agency and freedom from an entire group of people, you have not found a workable solution, you're just trying to push away blame from those who are ultimately responsible.

I sincerely hope your comment is satire or sarcasm. It doesn't land that way, it just reads as misogynistic, uncaring and divorced from the modern world.

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