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Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by [deleted] »

eli wrote: post #120
ceol wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say the entire site is useless, but the good communities are few and far between due to the reddit's culture abhorring any sort of moderation. Would you like me to edit my reply to be more specific to /r/AskReddit? Certainly if you have a scientific question, /r/askscience is great, and /r/philosophy tends to be decent most of the time. But my point is that getting honest, relatively troll-free discussion…

Agreed. Compare AskReddit to something like Ask Metafilter, which is fairly aggressively moderated.

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Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by sek »

samstave wrote: post #140
wpietri wrote: post #104

The forced login stuff really enraged me. This is the rant I posted to Quora on the topic in hopes of getting them to change their minds: For a long time I've been meaning to write personal stuff about my mom's death last year from a brain tumor. The question "Death and Dying: What does it feels like when doctor says you'll just live X days / months?" popped up in my feed. So I answered it. In detail. Crying as I wen…

Quora was founded by facebookers. People who actually have the worst fucking view online about what should be private and what should be public. People who have no digital-cultural compass because the only reference point they have is from working at Facebook, thus they think that "this is how it was thought of and done at Facebook - and Facebook is the most overly hyped company in history, so I must be a fucking gen…

I was thinking the same thing. Only Facebook makes such disrespectful moves... and then i remembered where the Quora founders came from.

I hope they fail, Facebook is a horrible example and everybody should realize that.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by chimeracoder »

thebooktocome wrote: post #41
chimeracoder wrote: post #27

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You may be unique, but within a very small pool. For example, my current user agent string alone narrows me down to within one in ~2-3 million users/browsers. When taken with the intersection of all those other bits, it's very easy to get an incredibly high-resolution snapshot of an individual...

I have no idea what "unique, but within a very small pool" is supposed to mean. Unique means "only one."

Ack, typo. What I meant to say was that, even if you're not completely uniquely identified by your information, if you're so rare that only a few people on earth have your information, it's just as bad.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by dredmorbius »

heyitsnick wrote: post #13

I see the author's point, and users should be aware Quora does this and have the facility to disable this but ... is this not an over reaction? Viewing a question titled “Should I come out to my parents?” or “What is the best way to hide an affair?” doesn't in any way imply you are gay or hiding an affair... just that you showed some interesting the question and possible answers. I'd be interesting in both those topi…

If all of these vague insinuations were so valueless, then why are all of these privacy-raping sociopathic websites trying so goddamned hard to expose them all, whether publicly or to their "marketing partners"?

NB: to better under stand "social networking", wordsub "sociopathic" and you'll be far closer to the truth.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by suweekly »

adastra wrote: post #123
cletus wrote: post #91

I can't help bit feel vindicated by moves like this because they're a sign that Quora isn't the Next Big Thing that many inside the bubble that is Silicon Valley seemed to think it is (eg [1]). Actually Quora is better than that (for me) in that it's a double hit on the hype on both Q&A and social. These kinds of moves: - requiring login to view content; - partially obscuring content on Google results to maximize sig…

I think this graph by technology review says it all: http://www.technologyreview.com/graphiti/427964/is-facebook-... Looking at the value per user (shown as circle size), it's easy to see the huge difference between late 90's companies and the companies of today. Google and Facebook stand out, of course. Notice any outliers? There's at least one company that seems to be over-hyped... (Hint: it begins with Q, and ends…

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Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by codeka »

koglerjs wrote: post #133
ceol wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not writing from a position of fear. The thought process of rapists is an interesting— albeit chilling— subject to study. My problem was with the responses to the rapists by what appeared to be normal, well-adjusted people: Heavily upvoted comments excusing what was textbook rape because alcohol was involved, or she said she wanted it at one point (or maybe she didn't and they assumed she said it), or because she…

I think what I'm saying is that you're upset about a thing that is a necessary reaction to the telling of truth.

Do you mean that the victim-blaming is what these people actually believe and therefore it's a form of "truth"? That we can say victim-blaming is wrong but the truth is, there's a lot of people out there who blame the victim for rape and that's something that should be acknowledged?

That's something I think I can agree with. Clearly, victim-blaming is a bigger problem than people might like to admit and while reddit represents a relatively small niche of society at large, there's clearly a lot of people sympathising with rapists and to just dismiss such comments as unproductive or unhelpful is ignoring a large problem in society.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by ahelwer »

koglerjs wrote: post #141
jmduke wrote: post #136

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The reddit thread in question had an absurd amount of victim-blaming. Not to disparage reddit as a whole, but there's a lot of close-mindedness and misogyny in the more populated subreddits.

You haven't said anything that has attacked my point.

You haven't said anything concrete enough to attack. Just a bunch of stuff about "the telling of the truth", whatever that's supposed to mean.

I hold that when you consider both subject matter and the community together, there are things which should not be discussed and analyzed. The reddit thread in question is an example. The community clearly demonstrated it was not equipped with the tools to handle that discussion.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by krickle »

ceol wrote: post #139
rm999 wrote: post #134

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While you acknowledge it's not the case, you're still making the mistake of thinking of reddit as a single community that is run in a homogeneous way. But subreddits have successfully and neatly separated the wheat from the chaff. Dig a little and you can find some great niche communities that don't exist outside of more archaic forum-style sites (communities that sites like quora would love to capture).

I know well of the niche communities in reddit. I frequent most of them to hide myself from the default subs. However, the same problems still exist. For instance, I enjoy the show Adventure Time , so I subscribed to the /r/adventuretime subreddit. It was fine for a while, but then a submission popped up on my front page. It was a photograph of a group of kids cosplaying as Adventure Time characters at a local conven…

If people acting like jerks offends you that much, you are going to have a bad time on the internet. Although if you know of anywhere besides HN that is mostly reasonable, please PM me :)

nitpick: just as you are offended by rude comments, I am offended by advocating violence as a response to rudeness. I don't think you were serious, but I have to say there's nothing you can say or write that actually warrants a punch in the face.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by koglerjs »

ahelwer wrote: post #157
koglerjs wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't said anything that has attacked my point.

You haven't said anything concrete enough to attack. Just a bunch of stuff about "the telling of the truth", whatever that's supposed to mean. I hold that when you consider both subject matter and the community together, there are things which should not be discussed and analyzed. The reddit thread in question is an example. The community clearly demonstrated it was not equipped with the tools to handle that discussi…

Are you saying you can't comprehend what I was trying to mean?

Your second paragraph is exactly the attitude that I despise. I don't care what your intent is: the effect is you want to hide what people really think.

There are no tools to handle that discussion. And that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. And that means we'll find the tools for it.

Clueless.

edit: I feel like I'm in the midst of the argument that HN doesn't want. And I both don't want it and do want it in the same breath.

HN doesn't have the self-examination reddit does. It just doesn't. HN manages it by careful changes to its ruleset.

Reddit manages it by having an incredibly uncontrolled diverse ecosystem of recursively examinative subreddits.

And while I admire HN's adherence to quality, I will endure downvote after downvote unto hellban in order to defy our stodginess.

Re: This is a bit f'd, Quora

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Post by jmduke »

koglerjs wrote: post #159
ahelwer wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't said anything concrete enough to attack. Just a bunch of stuff about "the telling of the truth", whatever that's supposed to mean. I hold that when you consider both subject matter and the community together, there are things which should not be discussed and analyzed. The reddit thread in question is an example. The community clearly demonstrated it was not equipped with the tools to handle that discussi…

Are you saying you can't comprehend what I was trying to mean? Your second paragraph is exactly the attitude that I despise. I don't care what your intent is: the effect is you want to hide what people really think. There are no tools to handle that discussion. And that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. And that means we'll find the tools for it. Clueless. edit: I feel like I'm in the midst of the argument that HN do…

The hell?

No, discussions which lead to more rape should not happen. This, I feel, is an unambiguous truth.

(I'm not saying that the particular reddit thread encouraged rape, though a psychologist much more well-versed than myself did -- but I don't think its a logical leap to see why victim-blaming would encourage self-rationalization of rape.)

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