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Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Features are one thing - yes, nearly all IDEs have lots of the same features. But that looks like they copied XCode 4's appearance directly. It's a pity the screenshots are so low resolution - hopefully some higher resolution shots of the Samsung software will turn up. But even in this example it's easy to spot lifted design elements: * The centered tab selector buttons in the title bar of each pane * The overall sty…

A screenshot of Eclipse that I grabbed off Google Images: http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_i... I don't use a lot of IDEs, but I honestly can't see any substantial distinctions between any of the three. (And no, I don't consider centering a pane a distinction.)

Eclipse is entirely different - it's not about similiar layout. Look closely at right pane both in Xcode and in Samsung IDE. Object library and inspector look VERY similiar.

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

#14

Or maybe they cloned Visual Studio. Or Flash Builder. Or whatever. All of the IDEs with a design surface are largely the same. Seriously- this is an IDE for televisions.

Agreed. Qt Designer used to look pretty much the same as well.

Actually, I don't know why this court nonsense is still making the news.

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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I cannot see a clear evidence to support the claim (that "samsung copied Xcode"). If you can reach that claim from the screenshot, you can make the same claim for netbeans, eclipse, intellJ,...etc (as the author admits him/herself, any capable IDE looks similar).

If the claim is on the icon design along, the claim could stand stronger; but I guess it's not "catchy" enough to claim "Samsung copied XCode's icon design".

Why don't people make such claims on open-source projects? Is it because open-source project has no money for other people to sue off?

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Features are one thing - yes, nearly all IDEs have lots of the same features. But that looks like they copied XCode 4's appearance directly. It's a pity the screenshots are so low resolution - hopefully some higher resolution shots of the Samsung software will turn up. But even in this example it's easy to spot lifted design elements: * The centered tab selector buttons in the title bar of each pane * The overall sty…

A screenshot of Eclipse that I grabbed off Google Images: http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_i... I don't use a lot of IDEs, but I honestly can't see any substantial distinctions between any of the three. (And no, I don't consider centering a pane a distinction.)

Oh, come on.

http://i.imgur.com/8uL8M.png vs http://cl.ly/IjBC

http://i.imgur.com/2Kn4j.png vs http://cl.ly/Iiob

http://i.imgur.com/RYYv9.png vs http://cl.ly/IiWX

We're not talking similar features here, we're talking lazy carbon-copied user interfaces. You honestly think this was accidental and there's only one way to make an IDE?

EDIT: A few more, now that we have a hi-res screenshot.

http://i.imgur.com/SYSv2.png vs http://cl.ly/IjUP

http://i.imgur.com/2nmUn.png vs http://i.imgur.com/4NFV6.png

http://i.imgur.com/HJ9s4.png vs http://i.imgur.com/qgpWc.png (that bar above "Scheme" is, you guessed it, a drop down)

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

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Or maybe they cloned Visual Studio. Or Flash Builder. Or whatever. All of the IDEs with a design surface are largely the same. Seriously- this is an IDE for televisions.

If you've used Xcode before, you'll recognize things they copied that are not the norm in other IDEs. The object library, IB screen, the layout buttons on the toolbar (the entire toolbar, really). Sure, it's just an IDE, but heck if it doesn't look strikingly similar to Xcode.

edit: cmelbye in this thread has a good comparison: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4378379

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

#19
About every IDE that support dockable panels can be customized to look like this. They can also be reorganized to look entirely different.

Quick, find the patent for dockable panels and sue everyone!

Re: Samsung copied Xcode?

#20
Next pundits will say even MATLAB copied Xcode...

No, I'm pretty sure Samsung did not explicitly copy Xcode there. Although it's a pretty stupid move to create their own IDE in my opinion. I think the standard these days is to build on top of Eclipse.

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