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Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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You don't keep a real flashlight next to your bed?

You don’t keep a real camera next to your bed? What about a two-way radio? MP3 player?

I keep all of those things next to my bed.

They all even share a unified battery charging mechanism and integrated packaging for easy portability.

I'm not sure if the idea of these pocket supercomputers will ever catch on, but it sure seems like it'd be nice.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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What Android version do you use where it doesn't happen`?

Never happened on my samsung.

I've woken up to a rebooted Samsung phone.

(And it has been problematic for me at times when this happened.)

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Might be I did something wrong, but even with YouTube video running via iPhone Mirroring device still went to reboot.

Hmm, yeah that seems wrong. I don't get reboots on devices I use frequently; I think it is only supposed to kick in when the device is not in use for a long time (it is meant to stop police who have a locked device they will try to brute force into).

Are you on latest iOS? Are you stilllocking / unlocking the phone once in 3 days at least?

7 days timeout on was introduced in iOS 18, but then decreased to 3 days. I dont use this device physically - it's just a phone that always connected to power and sit on top of mac mini for debugging and running some ios exclusive apps.

And I honestly dont do anything remotely interested to the police to worry about it. Yet it all just worked and now it doesnt.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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They stole the idea from GrapheneOS and shipped a barely half-baked version with hardcoded time. GrapheneOS has configurable time for it since years

I'd claim that Microsoft pioneered this time limit security concept with Windows 95 almost 30 years ago. They went with 2^32-1 milliseconds or about 49.7 days. We don't talk enough about Microsoft's strong legacy of security innovations, IMHO.

I’m not sure it was because they cared about security - looks more like accounting for 32-bit timestamp rollover would be very disruptive to the huge (legacy) code base and it was a quick fix to work around the problem :)

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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But all I want is "Please dont reboot my phone! Very please!" setting in options.

might have to resort to the homer j drinking bird to tap the screen (for reference https://youtu.be/R_rF4kcqLkI?t=174 )

No joke btw I already testing setup with auto clicker from AliExpress and Assistive Touch automation...

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Probably a good time as any to replace it with something purpose-built anyway. A Raspberry Pi with a directional microphone and a custom app feeding said microphone data to a service like AudD or ACRCloud could readily do the trick without any of Android's extra baggage - though I do wonder how effective those services would be at detecting songs amid a bunch of background noise like Bop Spotter does via Shazam.

I think half the value of the phone here is the built-in battery

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Probably a good time as any to replace it with something purpose-built anyway. A Raspberry Pi with a directional microphone and a custom app feeding said microphone data to a service like AudD or ACRCloud could readily do the trick without any of Android's extra baggage - though I do wonder how effective those services would be at detecting songs amid a bunch of background noise like Bop Spotter does via Shazam.

I think half the value of the phone here is the built-in battery

Perhaps, but it's also inexpensive to (properly) use one or more 18650s with a Raspberry Pi if that's what one wants to do.

I think the main advantage to using phones for random stuff is availability: We here on HN probably have a decent selection of old phones to pick from, so it doesn't cost any money at all to give a new purpose to one.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

There is nothing any technology company can do to protect against rubber hose decryption.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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They stole the idea from GrapheneOS and shipped a barely half-baked version with hardcoded time. GrapheneOS has configurable time for it since years

I'd claim that Microsoft pioneered this time limit security concept with Windows 95 almost 30 years ago. They went with 2^32-1 milliseconds or about 49.7 days. We don't talk enough about Microsoft's strong legacy of security innovations, IMHO.

To this day, some programs malfunction after 2^31 milliseconds have passed since bootup, which is the halfway point. Milliseconds since bootup has just become negative, and has not rolled over yet. Just having a negative number of milliseconds is enough to mess with those programs.
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