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Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Considering this is all about Android adopting a very similar feature, it doesn’t sound like “Apple being Apple”…

It's Apple being a trailblazer and leading the industry. Sometimes that lead is in a bad direction.

If I remember correctly, Apple actually picked up the feature after seeing it implemented in GrapheneOS. I think some people associated with Graphene were calling on Apple to add it for security reasons.

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They stole the idea from GrapheneOS and shipped a barely half-baked version with hardcoded time. GrapheneOS has configurable time for it since years

Can you set the time to one minute?

Graphene's autoreboot has 12 different options (excluding disabling it) ranging from 72 hours down to 10 minutes and the timer is reset each time the device is unlocked. Tbh I think a 1 minute setting would actually be nice (for things like when you are going through customs, etc) but I get why they don't provide it.

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It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

It's good to be able to disable this option: I use old Android phones as servers and don't want them to reboot every 3 days.

Completely agree, I don't want this to disrupt the Bop Spotter

https://walzr.com/bop-spotter

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It's Apple being a trailblazer and leading the industry. Sometimes that lead is in a bad direction.

The rest of the industry are adults and can be responsible for their own decisions though.

Doesn't seem like it. I remember when Samsung ads mocked Apple for the camera notch and removing the headphone jack.

For obvious reasons those ads are long gone...

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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I found that this saves a lot of battery. My old Motorola G5G is now sitting idle, and I had to charge it every 4-5 days. I found that if the phone is restarted and NOT unlocked, it will stay charged for more than 10 days. My best guess is that a screen unlock is required to start many of the OS-level services, which takes up all the battery.

If this is true, then the new update will save a lot of battery for those phones that are sitting idle.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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I found that this saves a lot of battery. My old Motorola G5G is now sitting idle, and I had to charge it every 4-5 days. I found that if the phone is restarted and NOT unlocked , it will stay charged for more than 10 days. My best guess is that a screen unlock is required to start many of the OS-level services, which takes up all the battery. If this is true, then the new update will save a lot of battery for those…

A phone sitting idle is very unusual though, a very edge case

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#137

I found that this saves a lot of battery. My old Motorola G5G is now sitting idle, and I had to charge it every 4-5 days. I found that if the phone is restarted and NOT unlocked , it will stay charged for more than 10 days. My best guess is that a screen unlock is required to start many of the OS-level services, which takes up all the battery. If this is true, then the new update will save a lot of battery for those…

Everything except a very minimal core is kept on an encrypted partition. Until the password is provided, most things can't launch.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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It's good to be able to disable this option: I use old Android phones as servers and don't want them to reboot every 3 days.

https://xkcd.com/1172/ Don't think old Androids will get this update.

It's a Google Play Services update, likely explicitly to be able to push it to all (Google-using) Android phones immediately, without waiting for OS updates. This will not be a "Guess I'll get it in a few years" update.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's good to be able to disable this option: I use old Android phones as servers and don't want them to reboot every 3 days.

https://xkcd.com/1172/ Don't think old Androids will get this update.

Eventually, the android phones of today will be old android phones.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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How is this going to work with SIM cards that need a PIN? I'll be just unreachable until I notice the reboot?

Or if you're primarily reachable by an app that can't launch until AFU, the phone reboots silently and you don't realize it, and you're incommunicado.

Some time later, you need to do something on the phone, you unlock it, the app starts up, and a flood of messages pours in. Wow, some of those would've been really useful to receive in a timely fashion! Whoops!

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