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Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Some of us are scared shitless but have been called hysterical for years. Some of us emigrated.

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It might be wiser to emigrate if you cannot trust your fellow citizens and neighbours to care about your country becoming fascist. If you've got brown skin, then you'd be better off leaving on your own terms rather than being exported to a concentration camp in El Salvador.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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I think they are just nice and ignorant, honestly. So many I interact with are just simply unaware and vote based on their discomfort with urban liberal culture. That's it. The blue hair and the pronouns made them feel weird, so they voted the other way.

That's been my experience as well. There is a large population of uneducated people (At least in terms of critical thinking) in the US that are not able to understand the impact of what is happening regarding what this administration is doing. And I think this is by design as the attacks on educational systems are increasing.

I’ve had many conversations that amount to “I’d agree that illegal citizens should not have entered the country and maybe deportation is the correct recourse” (even from immigrants) but if they saw how the inhumanity of how deportations happened they’d be appalled. The government could be nicer to humans, but it’s a government

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/addr... https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-pr... >Krebs ... falsely and baselessly denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen This quote coming from "whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets" is pretty wild. This seems to be retribution, plain and simple.

> This seems to be retribution, plain and simple.

It's hardly surprising as it's almost the defining feature of Trump - pettiness and revenge minded.

(though strangely, he hasn't publicly insulted his Pennsylvania would-be-assassin, but luckily his ear has healed remarkably well and so maybe he feels no need to do so)

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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I think they are just nice and ignorant, honestly. So many I interact with are just simply unaware and vote based on their discomfort with urban liberal culture. That's it. The blue hair and the pronouns made them feel weird, so they voted the other way.

I don't buy that. They have allowed their ignorance to be weaponised against the entire country, and if they refuse to acknowledge that, they are complicit in its destruction.

If you work two jobs to make ends meet, and get home at 11pm to fall asleep watching a low budget film on Netflix with ads, when are you going to have time to read non-partisan news and form an educated anger? Ignorance is a bigger driver than informed complicitness

Huxley was right

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Well the way it should work is that executive orders are not laws and should not be treated as such. They’re supposed to be memos about how executive agencies should interpret the law. Somehow though, as congress has languished they’ve been accruing more and more power

Congress largely relinquished that power by creating bills that establish rule-making executive agencies rather than writing the rules themselves. That leaves congresspeople free to do things like trade stocks and raise money for their respective parties. They claim they would be too busy to read all the rules they would have to pass, but (1) that's the point and (2) they pass massive bills they don't read anyway. Th…

No, that's bullshit.

Requiring Congress to get involved every time a regulatory agency needs to adapt to new circumstances or new technology would leave us at the mercy of unscrupulous corporations who can and will "move fast and break things."

No; Congress relinquished their power when Congressional Republicans chose to become "the party of No" and just prevent anything from happening under Obama. That's when executive orders started to become much more common.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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You see this in other areas too like academia being afraid they will get the ire of the administration and lose money. For a lot of firms they don't want to suddenly get their government contracts dropped by speaking out. This is how things slowly become more authoritarian, and freedom of speech dies. This is also why the gradual expansion of executive power was not good. If the threat of financial loss stops people…

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I can understand your position intellectually. Certainly, examples of right wing views being met with hostility can be found. But I hope you realise that whataboutism simply perpetuates the very behaviour that your are opposed to.

If you are opposed to conservative voices being suppressed, the surely you see the problem with the opposite kind of speech being specifically targeted by the president of the United States?

If, instead you would like to see right wing speech being free, but are ok with liberal voices being suppressed, then isn't your position hypocritical?

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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The silence from cybersec, with a couple of exceptions, about DOGE is stunning to me. Not this story but what I thought the headline referred to.

You see this in other areas too like academia being afraid they will get the ire of the administration and lose money. For a lot of firms they don't want to suddenly get their government contracts dropped by speaking out. This is how things slowly become more authoritarian, and freedom of speech dies. This is also why the gradual expansion of executive power was not good. If the threat of financial loss stops people…

> imagine what it would be like if you would be investigated and jailed on sham charges like in some other countries

Some other countries? The US is renditioning people without due (any!) process ostensibly based on their tattoos. I'm not saying this to be pithy but to sound (or at least amplify) the alarm.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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> What else can be done? Civil war. It will probably have to come to this, some day or other.

Or you know - find everyone congressperson who is not doing their job, figure out if they are breaking state, federal law, or even party law. Get special elections going and get a working congress. This paralysis amongst Americans is very un American. You have a decent poltical set up. Use it. You don’t need a magic wand like a civil war. You need to do the boring dull work of reading, analyzing and then making execu…

> Get special elections going and get a working congress.

There are no recall elections for Congressional seats.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Or you know - find everyone congressperson who is not doing their job, figure out if they are breaking state, federal law, or even party law. Get special elections going and get a working congress. This paralysis amongst Americans is very un American. You have a decent poltical set up. Use it. You don’t need a magic wand like a civil war. You need to do the boring dull work of reading, analyzing and then making execu…

> Get special elections going and get a working congress That's not actually legal in many (most?) states. Recall is not a universal feature. What you're advocating for is civil war. In many states, the only way to get Congresspeople to leave would be "voluntarily" (i.e. "We threaten to burn down every piece of property you have if you don't give up your seat"). Which, actually, has worked deep in America's past; the…

I think you are conflating two concepts. Most states do not allow recall of state legislators as you mentioned, but recalling federal legislators is not allowed in any state—there is no constitutional mechanism enabling it.
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