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Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by cyrnel »

I think this article describes the issue well:

https://crankysec.com/blog/community/

> All the cybersecurity companies saying "We don't have anything to say about this situation." is just them being true to their main in-group: for-profit companies that don't want to upset a big current or potential buyer. They are, first and foremost, part of that "community", and they happen to be involved in cybersecurity. Solidarity is happening there, just not to the people in cybersecurity.

This sucks and we should change it for sure. So many other industries have successfully become professionalized, unionized, and kicked the grifters to the curb. But it feels more and more like the cybersecurity grifters are the ones holding the reins.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by seydor »

derriz wrote: post #21

It seems that the idea that someone could be motivated simply by having integrity, valuing honesty and pride in simply "doing their job" correctly is so alien to the current US administration that they see political motives everywhere and in everyone's actions. The fact that people with such a cynical and amoral worldview wield so much power not only in US but globally and are willing to wield that power in capriciou…

It's too early to see visible results of what has happened in less than 100 days. I am confident the approval will rise and fall as swiftly as the price of new iphones.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by sylens »

Silence from companies in terms of press releases and official statements, maybe. But almost everyone I know in the industry is somewhere between concerned and outraged over this.

Another shining example in the first few months of this administration of how we should not defer leadership to private industry, because they will always be motivated by preserving their bottom line.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by xocnad »

AlexandrB wrote: post #33
pm90 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a certain extent this is a result of living in a media ecosystem where most of the population doesn’t actually see an unbiased reporting of facts but whatever is shown to them by certain right wing news networks. But I do agree at some point people need to take responsibility for their information diet. Fwiw media manipulation of American opinion isn’t new, its been a huge part of how America works since at least…

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Where did you see any reference to any source or lean in what you replied to? You are projecting your viewpoint on which is good or bad.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by specialp »

jonahbenton wrote: post #8

The silence from cybersec, with a couple of exceptions, about DOGE is stunning to me. Not this story but what I thought the headline referred to.

You see this in other areas too like academia being afraid they will get the ire of the administration and lose money. For a lot of firms they don't want to suddenly get their government contracts dropped by speaking out. This is how things slowly become more authoritarian, and freedom of speech dies. This is also why the gradual expansion of executive power was not good.

If the threat of financial loss stops people from criticizing actions, imagine what it would be like if you would be investigated and jailed on sham charges like in some other countries.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by sheepdestroyer »

LastTrain wrote: post #31
pm90 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a certain extent this is a result of living in a media ecosystem where most of the population doesn’t actually see an unbiased reporting of facts but whatever is shown to them by certain right wing news networks. But I do agree at some point people need to take responsibility for their information diet. Fwiw media manipulation of American opinion isn’t new, its been a huge part of how America works since at least…

There is no such thing as unbiased reporting of facts. People not understanding that, and the fact that there is nothing inherently wrong with bias, is a big part of the problem.

Objective reality, it exists.

Telling your audience obviously false / anti-factual lies, without any regard for fact checking, is not just "biased reporting". And it is inherently wrong, malevolent, evil.

Anyway, I'm amazed each time I hear right wingers who did not get the joke seemingly complaining about how Reality has a left leaning political bias...

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by josefresco »

seydor wrote: post #42
derriz wrote: post #21

It seems that the idea that someone could be motivated simply by having integrity, valuing honesty and pride in simply "doing their job" correctly is so alien to the current US administration that they see political motives everywhere and in everyone's actions. The fact that people with such a cynical and amoral worldview wield so much power not only in US but globally and are willing to wield that power in capriciou…

It's too early to see visible results of what has happened in less than 100 days. I am confident the approval will rise and fall as swiftly as the price of new iphones.

Approval ratings might fall, but they've installed a system of nearly unchecked power, and have shown a blatant disregard for law. It's probably too late for even the base to affect change without bloodshed.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by throwaway984393 »

CalRobert wrote: post #27
_cenw wrote: post #7

My experience is that everyone who's not close to any of these impacts is apathetic or treating events like they're reality TV, and even light attempts at convincing that there's more going on and that we might be in a historic and bad situation is met with hostility as if you just told someone's small kid that Santa isn't real. At best they care about the financial parts of the news.

Some of us are scared shitless but have been called hysterical for years. Some of us emigrated.

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Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by smallmancontrov »

AlexandrB wrote: post #33
pm90 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a certain extent this is a result of living in a media ecosystem where most of the population doesn’t actually see an unbiased reporting of facts but whatever is shown to them by certain right wing news networks. But I do agree at some point people need to take responsibility for their information diet. Fwiw media manipulation of American opinion isn’t new, its been a huge part of how America works since at least…

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Fox and MSNBC are relentlessly partisan, but CNN aims for the center and misses. There's a big difference, and it's wild that Republicans got away with pretending that CNN was in the Fox/MSNBC tier just by repeating it as dogma until in their own minds it became true.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by Griffinsauce »

ripe wrote: post #12

The administration needs to be sued in court. What else can be done? This is awful.

The supreme court is stacked, they're blackmailing lawyers. They're generally ignoring judges already. The law is irrelevant to them unless convenient.
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