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Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

josefresco wrote: post #47
seydor wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's too early to see visible results of what has happened in less than 100 days. I am confident the approval will rise and fall as swiftly as the price of new iphones.

Approval ratings might fall, but they've installed a system of nearly unchecked power, and have shown a blatant disregard for law. It's probably too late for even the base to affect change without bloodshed.

The flipside of the "states' rights" movement is that the Federal Government is much weaker: so while it's easier to strip away rights and dismantle federal institutions, it's also easier for individuals to oppose the concrete harm that'd cause by working the levers of their local government. https://plush.city/@scarlet/114355949314782873 gives a few concrete things that individuals (not even groups) can do, which might make an outsized difference.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by r721 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #33
pm90 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a certain extent this is a result of living in a media ecosystem where most of the population doesn’t actually see an unbiased reporting of facts but whatever is shown to them by certain right wing news networks. But I do agree at some point people need to take responsibility for their information diet. Fwiw media manipulation of American opinion isn’t new, its been a huge part of how America works since at least…

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What about trying to be in the middle/upper part of this chart?

https://adfontesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Media-B...

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by shlip »

ragazzina wrote: post #15
jonahbenton wrote: post #8

The silence from cybersec, with a couple of exceptions, about DOGE is stunning to me. Not this story but what I thought the headline referred to.

>what I thought the headline referred to. I thought the same. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1913023007263543565.html

Is this discussed on HN ? Edit: Yep, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43691142

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by ANarrativeApe »

LastTrain wrote: post #31
pm90 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a certain extent this is a result of living in a media ecosystem where most of the population doesn’t actually see an unbiased reporting of facts but whatever is shown to them by certain right wing news networks. But I do agree at some point people need to take responsibility for their information diet. Fwiw media manipulation of American opinion isn’t new, its been a huge part of how America works since at least…

There is no such thing as unbiased reporting of facts. People not understanding that, and the fact that there is nothing inherently wrong with bias, is a big part of the problem.

Is that a fact?

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by phkahler »

i80and wrote: post #17
_cenw wrote: post #7

My experience is that everyone who's not close to any of these impacts is apathetic or treating events like they're reality TV, and even light attempts at convincing that there's more going on and that we might be in a historic and bad situation is met with hostility as if you just told someone's small kid that Santa isn't real. At best they care about the financial parts of the news.

People only caring about immediate financial impacts is so deeply disheartening

I see that as a broad trend. Very very few people have guiding principles these days.

The "problem" with principles is that living by them sometimes means going against something we want right now. People don't want to concede anything, even for their own ideals.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by card_zero »

ANarrativeApe wrote: post #64
LastTrain wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no such thing as unbiased reporting of facts. People not understanding that, and the fact that there is nothing inherently wrong with bias, is a big part of the problem.

Is that a fact?

Presumably yes but subject to benign bias.

Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by mschoch »

deadbabe wrote: post #32
bambax wrote: post #26

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> What else can be done? Civil war. It will probably have to come to this, some day or other.

If you’re not willing to pick up arms and fight, chances are no one else is, so it will never happen. Most likely nothing can be done and people will just live under a totalitarian fascist regime for the duration of their lives. Keep talking about civil war, you’ll be imprisoned and silenced. You should delete your post.

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Re: Deafening Silence from the Cybersecurity Industry

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Post by spicyusername »

josefresco wrote: post #47
seydor wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's too early to see visible results of what has happened in less than 100 days. I am confident the approval will rise and fall as swiftly as the price of new iphones.

Approval ratings might fall, but they've installed a system of nearly unchecked power, and have shown a blatant disregard for law. It's probably too late for even the base to affect change without bloodshed.

I know things feel dire, and things are certainly very bad for sure, but they have been bad before and things turned around. The Gilded Age comes to mind. Hell, even Nazi Germany didn't last forever.

Don't despair. Do what you can to make the world you want to see, accept the things outside your control, turn off social media, and stay positive!

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