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ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Post by Kolya »

actuallyalys wrote: post #21

It wouldn’t shock me if multimodal LLMs were good at GeoGuesser [0], but if we’re being picky, it takes more than a few examples to demonstrate a game is “solved.” I also wonder what kind of data leakage might have been at play, like other people have suggested. To be clear, my point is not that this is unimpressive, just that this doesn’t demonstrate much. (Edit: I should have said, it doesn’t demonstrate what the t…

The examples are cherry-picked. I took a photo outside my office window in a built-up area, o3 thought for 5m 7s (!), and it got the location wrong by 40km. Doesn't look solved to me.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Post by Gathering6678 »

After trying with the free ChatGPT at least, I don't think this would be too much of an additional privacy risk. E.g. I submitted a photo I've taken with a feature with a particular architecture style in the front, and a city canal in the background, and told ChatGPT it was taken in China. It separated the feature and canal correctly, but still guessed wrong. I did remove the EXIF information, as ChatGPT tried to extract GPS info and failed at first.

I guess as long as there are no major visible features (e.g. a huge mountain), and you sanitized the metadata, you will be fine (regarding ChatGPT).

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Post by xnickb »

Mistletoe wrote: post #24
colordrops wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim." - Edsger Dijkstra

Isn’t a human brain an organic computer? I find the human brain very interesting. The most interesting thing I know of in the universe.

Religious people claim it's merely a communication device, and the computer is elsewhere.

Clearly one's interpretation is a function of the paradigm one exists in.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Post by Grimblewald »

foolfoolz wrote: post #13

somehow location tags on my photos got turned off for a bit. i would use this to restore them

You could, but that would also be a rather silly idea. Your rough estimate for where photo was taken is going to be more accurate than what the model will produce.

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Post by riidom »

xnickb wrote: post #35
Mistletoe wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t a human brain an organic computer? I find the human brain very interesting. The most interesting thing I know of in the universe.

Religious people claim it's merely a communication device, and the computer is elsewhere. Clearly one's interpretation is a function of the paradigm one exists in.

Thin client theory?

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Post by defrost »

layman51 wrote: post #26
xeonmc wrote: post #2

The steam engine was invented and the 100m dash is now a solved problem.

GeoGuessr is also not a “solved problem” in the sense that if you give the model a photo of an outdoor location that is not covered by Google Street View, then it will just make an educated guess which might still be many kilometers away.

Much of the interior of Western Australia (an area 3x the size of Texas) can be divided into very few cells which essentially look near identical in all directions, coupled with few roads for the area and not much in the way of uploaded snaps coverage.

There's a lot of flat lands with spinifex in certain areas (easily a couple of United Kingdoms in size) and even a touch of mesa won't help narrow a location down from the general are as there are many of those with identical edge profiles.

But sure "Pilbara", "Kimberley", "Wheatbelt" can be geo guessed .. it's a real challenge to narrow down (I spent some time doing wet film photogrammetry prior to sheperding in WGS84 differential GPS locating and digital film and multi spectral geophysical aquisition).

No so hard if there's a few relatively unique man made features.

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Post by emmelaich »

Retr0id wrote: post #17
dataviz1000 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in Lima, Peru on vacation. Yes, it knows where I am.

Right, and what happens if you ask it the location of an image from somewhere else, sans metadata?

It can, look at the alt-text of one of the pics lower on the page.
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