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ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Post by jsheard »

romanhn wrote: post #4

The Alki Beach example is absolute madness. On one hand, I can't wait until all thousands of my photos get automatic semantic and geographic tagging (I guess that's possible now). On the other, goodbye privacy, we hardly knew ye. It will be interesting to apply this to historical, or just old, photos.

> The Alki Beach example is absolute madness.

I wonder about info leakage with that one, the poster uses that exact photo as their avatar so if they've mentioned Alki Beach before then reverse image searching might pick it up from context. Ideally you'd want to test it with a photo that's never been posted online.

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Post by dataviz1000 »

Retr0id wrote: post #9

In all these examples, I wonder if it's indirectly able to draw on the user's own location? Not necessarily via image metadata, but the request origin IP etc. If I ask ChatGPT for the weather forecast, I get it for my own location. Would be interesting to have someone reproduce coming from a different country.

I'm in Lima, Peru on vacation. Yes, it knows where I am.

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Post by Crestwave »

abcanddbutnote wrote: post #5

One line of javascript solved that "problem" a while ago. The answer is in the DOM.

This isn't just referring to GeoGuessr the game, but locating photographs in general. The source post sums it up very reasonably and concisely:

> PSA: When posting any outdoors photos, update your threat model from "someone skilled and dedicated could theoretically locate this" to "any stalker can do this for 20€/mo"

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Post by dredmorbius »

xeonmc wrote: post #2

The steam engine was invented and the 100m dash is now a solved problem.

A far more apropos comparison would be the internal combustion engine and the horse, in a military context. Though sticking with steam engines, military logistics advantaged over a wagon caravan.

The question here isn't a casual guessing game, but threat models (as directly addressed in TFA), and general informational hygiene.

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Post by bee_rider »

romanhn wrote: post #4

The Alki Beach example is absolute madness. On one hand, I can't wait until all thousands of my photos get automatic semantic and geographic tagging (I guess that's possible now). On the other, goodbye privacy, we hardly knew ye. It will be interesting to apply this to historical, or just old, photos.

Of course, it is pretty impressive.

It isn’t magic. I think there we’ll often be surprised by the “hits,” but it’ll also get a lot of “misses.” A random photo in your back yard that doesn’t show the horizon will probably be a miss, right?

Meanwhile, lots of photos already include GPS coordinates… data you can strip out, but which is enabled by default for millions of people. Privacy, eh, never knew it I guess.

Re: ChatGPT now performs well at GeoGuesser

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Post by Retr0id »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #12
Retr0id wrote: post #9

In all these examples, I wonder if it's indirectly able to draw on the user's own location? Not necessarily via image metadata, but the request origin IP etc. If I ask ChatGPT for the weather forecast, I get it for my own location. Would be interesting to have someone reproduce coming from a different country.

I'm in Lima, Peru on vacation. Yes, it knows where I am.

Right, and what happens if you ask it the location of an image from somewhere else, sans metadata?

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Post by xnickb »

bee_rider wrote: post #16
romanhn wrote: post #4

The Alki Beach example is absolute madness. On one hand, I can't wait until all thousands of my photos get automatic semantic and geographic tagging (I guess that's possible now). On the other, goodbye privacy, we hardly knew ye. It will be interesting to apply this to historical, or just old, photos.

Of course, it is pretty impressive. It isn’t magic. I think there we’ll often be surprised by the “hits,” but it’ll also get a lot of “misses.” A random photo in your back yard that doesn’t show the horizon will probably be a miss, right? Meanwhile, lots of photos already include GPS coordinates… data you can strip out, but which is enabled by default for millions of people. Privacy, eh, never knew it I guess.

It's a fallacy to assume that one didn't have privacy merely because most people opted out of it due to personal reasons.
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