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Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Companies pay MarkMonitor to NOT make these mistakes. So... GoDaddy failed?

Yeah I don't understand this. MarkMonitor themselves are a registry, so is the potentially a mistake in migrating from GoDaddy to MarkMonitor?

GoDaddy operates the .us TLD, so Zoom registered the domain through Markmonitor, who acquired it from GoDaddy, who shit the bed and broke everything.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Someone in the Zoom company management forgot to update the billing credit card for that domain, I bet you $1000. Happens all the time with our clients.

They don’t use normal registrations. Anyone with any size is using MarkMonitor and do monthly billing and have a dedicated person. No credit cards.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I don't understand this. MarkMonitor themselves are a registry, so is the potentially a mistake in migrating from GoDaddy to MarkMonitor?

GoDaddy operates the .us TLD, so Zoom registered the domain through Markmonitor, who acquired it from GoDaddy, who shit the bed and broke everything.

ah-ha! Didn't consider that GoDaddy operates the TLD (in my mind I assumed it was just Verisign). Thank you for pointing that out.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #17
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies pay MarkMonitor to NOT make these mistakes. So... GoDaddy failed?

Yeah I don't understand this. MarkMonitor themselves are a registry, so is the potentially a mistake in migrating from GoDaddy to MarkMonitor?

MarkMonitor is a registrar (one of many). GoDaddy Registry is the .us registry operator (the only one); they actually operate the TLD on behalf of the government. In this capacity they are not operating as another registrar, but as the TLD operator.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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I was really hoping to find out they were hosting their DNS on GoDaddy. I still want it to be true.

If only it were so, then they would have kind of deserved it. TIL GoDaddy wormed it’s way into administering the .us TLD on behalf of the federal government.

wormed it is

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Something is fishy about this. A communication error would not result in a domain being placed on hold. On hold is usually the result of a legal order or in the case of the .us TLD a nexus compliance violation. I've transferred thousands of domains from assorted dodgy registrars into MarkMonitor and can not even imagine a scenario where a miscommunication results in a domain being placed on hold.

Nah, weird stuff that “shouldn’t” happen almost always happens more often than things that “should” happen.

What? Weird stuff happens less by definition.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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What does “shutting down” the domain even mean? Has to be a DNS thing, right?

It's translated through several layers of people who don't know anything. Their domain expired because at some level people made some pretty boneheaded mistakes. Whomever their actual registrar actually was (GoDaddy it seems) stopped pointing the zoom.us nameserver record (NS) at AWS Route 53 which Zoom obviously uses. % dig +short zoom.us NS ns-387.awsdns-48.com. ns-1137.awsdns-14.org. ns-1772.awsdns-29.co.uk. ns-88…

GoDaddy is the root registry for all .us ccTLD, MarkMonitor is the actual registar Zoom is working with. The issue seems to be more how GoDaddy assigned to the domain to MarkMonitor not something Zoom itself likely controls (such as NS records)

.us (and other many TLDs) uses EPP to communicate between registars (MarkMonitor here) and Registry (GoDaddy). It is probably an admin error rather than code[1], some manual approval or other human review workflow for high value domain and someone clicked/filled in the wrong value at GoDaddy or MarkMonitor would be my first guess.

[1] would have been observed and fixed long before today, transfers happen all the time after all

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GoDaddy operates the .us TLD, so Zoom registered the domain through Markmonitor, who acquired it from GoDaddy, who shit the bed and broke everything.

ah-ha! Didn't consider that GoDaddy operates the TLD (in my mind I assumed it was just Verisign). Thank you for pointing that out.

It used to be operated by Neustar, but GoDaddy bought out their domains business in 2020.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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"This block was the result of a communication error between Zoom’s domain registrar, Markmonitor, and GoDaddy Registry, which resulted in GoDaddy Registry mistakenly shutting down zoom.us domain. "

Something is fishy about this. A communication error would not result in a domain being placed on hold. On hold is usually the result of a legal order or in the case of the .us TLD a nexus compliance violation. I've transferred thousands of domains from assorted dodgy registrars into MarkMonitor and can not even imagine a scenario where a miscommunication results in a domain being placed on hold.

Correctness doesn't scale. If something has six nines of reliability, you'll probably never see the one-in-million outlier yourself. But if the other side deals with a million requests a month, they are a common occurrence.
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