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CVE program faces swift end after DHS fails to renew contract [updated]

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Post by drivingmenuts »

krferriter wrote: post #184
drivingmenuts wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that the Kids at DOGE are all computer experts, this reeks of a calculated move.

Absolutely not. They are not broadly experts, and they are not making these decisions after careful consideration, as evidenced by their continual acts of stupidity and basic errors and cutting things despite having no idea what it is they are cutting. Musk got in an argument with someone who said DOGE cut funding for a cancer treatment program, and Musk was calling the person a liar, and the person provided evidence…

Sorry, I really should have said "experts" with the rabbit ears. But it still reeks.

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Post by crazygringo »

ddejohn wrote: post #892
crazygringo wrote: post #793

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There wasn't any evidence, that's the problem. It was all opinion. Trump said a lot of stuff before this election, but he said a lot of stuff before his first one too. When people disagreed on what he might do, it was all guesses. There was no evidence to base anything on. Would his second term be restrained by people around him like in his first? That would be an evidence-based extrapolation. Would tariffs be all ta…

It's insanely naive to have thought a second Trump admin would not be worse in every possible way. Did you pay attention at all to what was going on with SCOTUS? Project 2025? Saying "there wasn't any evidence" is borderline bot-speak. Anybody who thought Trump 2.0 was going to be like the first round was simply not paying attention at all and anybody telling others it wasn't going to be like the first admin is eithe…

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Post by butterlover »

tlogan wrote: post #739
jeff_carr wrote: post #721

The contract with MITRE has been extended. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2025/04/16/cve-... My guess indefinitely. DOGE might be a bunch of idiots, but in the entire DOD, there are non-idiots.

My guess is that they’ll be phased out next year. The long-term goal seems to be transitioning the CVE program into something more like an industry-led consortium. (If you did not notice they operate zero budgeting approach: cut everything and if something is very important reverse it. But you cut first and then ask questions.) It’s worth noting that MITRE is a DoD contractor (with minor contracts from other agencies…

It’s probably more accurate to describe mitre as a publicly funded non profit operating for public benefit like the post office or PBS.

It’s a stretch to describe it as an arm of the government.

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Post by daveguy »

michaelt wrote: post #380
bruce511 wrote: post #243

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>>They thought they voted for something different Like what exactly? I mean the guy ran on cutting the budget by 2 trillion. In his last term he gave tax breaks yo the rich. Where did they think the cuts were coming from? He ran very hard on raising tarrifs. Which demonstrably raise prices (thats literally their goal.) But now people claim "I didn't vote for this." In truth they voted for him because he was the Repub…

> Where did they think the cuts were coming from? When someone hands you a pencil, you don't wonder what variety of tree the wood came from, or what paint chemistry was used for the coating. It's a pencil. You might have broad opinions on whether the one in your hand is comfortable to use, and sharp - but you leave the details to the pencil makers. About 70% of the population engage with politics the same way: Leave…

This is exactly the attitude Putin tries to encourage in his population. If enough people don't pay attention or don't think what they do matters, it's easier to subjugate a population.

If people in the US aren't starting to notice what Musk/Trump are doing it will bode very poorly for the future of the US.

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Post by andreygrehov »

marcusb wrote: post #824
andreygrehov wrote: post #792

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But the article says, quote: > It’s unclear what led to DHS’s decision to end the contract after 25 years and then suddenly it gets extended. What does it have to do with DOGE?

MITRE has been hit with DOGE-branded cuts[0] earlier this month. CISA has been impacted[1]. It seems reasonable to assume they were involved in this. 0 - https://virginiabusiness.com/nova-govcon-firm-mitre-to-lay-o... 1 - https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/11/doge-axes-cisa-red-team-st...

That’s a pretty big leap. Ending a 25-year contract and laying off ~600 employees are two very different scales of impact. While DOGE-related cuts might have influenced some decisions, assuming they directly caused DHS to initially let the CVE contract lapse seems like a stretch. Just because two things happen near each other doesn’t mean one caused the other - this feels more like another chance to take a swing at DOGE, since that’s the bandwagon everyone’s riding right now.

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Post by froggertoaster »

raegis wrote: post #872
froggertoaster wrote: post #818

Believe me when I say that DOGE is filled with smart people (I know a few of them). Just because they're scattershot cutting doesn't mean they're stupid.

I guess I'm naive, but given the current situation, wouldn't a smart person resign from DOGE? If I were smart and highly employable, like these guys, I would not want to be associated with all the indiscriminate firings of DOGE.

I guess it depends on what you value.

I think it speaks a lot about a person who assumes "a smart person would resign from DOGE".

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Post by lynndotpy »

plasma_beam wrote: post #795
lynndotpy wrote: post #755

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This is DHS, not DOD.

Yes, I was responding to someone who was talking about the DoD. Noem is likewise not someone I would depend on to make good decisions.

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Post by boston_clone »

typesarecool wrote: post #902
bclemens wrote: post #785

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Of course! It's easy to forget he was a guard at one of America's most notorious concentration camps, Guantanamo Bay. It's foolish to think of him only as a Fox News personality.

Not defending him as a person, but he earned a bronze star serving in Iraq.

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Post by boston_clone »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #906
bclemens wrote: post #785

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Of course! It's easy to forget he was a guard at one of America's most notorious concentration camps, Guantanamo Bay. It's foolish to think of him only as a Fox News personality.

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can you image that? people will just go on the internet and lie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Shinseki

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Post by stonogo »

tylermw wrote: post #814
nxobject wrote: post #783

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I’m a little hesitant to trust a CVE database operated by private industry on the grounds of conflict of interest for that reason, too.

MITRE is a Federally Funded Research and Development Center (FFRDC), which is a distinct type of federal contractor with strict conflict of interest regulations. They are owned by the federal government, but operated by contractors and are specifically structured and regulated to minimize conflicts of interest, so are distinct from "private industry" in many regards. You can read a congressional report by the CRS des…

MITRE is absolutely not an FFRDC. It's a regular old 501(c)(3) which happens to manage FFRDCs.
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