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Post by burningChrome »

GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #534
genewitch wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tariffs that were announced during the campaign - the same way Ross Perot did - and the reasoning was to bring us manufacturing back to the US and reduce the tax burden on US citizens? Such as writing off car payments if the car is American? People wigged out over non-reciprocal tariffs, where we tariff at 50% what they charge the US. People wigged out at 10℅ flat rate tariffs. "Heard island penguins get charged…

The tariffs were announced with no plan to bolster on-shore manufacturing.

The main purpose of tariffs is to change behavior for both the consumer and the manufacturers.

Auto manufacturers have been doing this for decades when the US started imposing tariffs on Japanese manufacturers back in the 1970's. To get around the tariffs and still get access to the US markets, they would simply assemble the parts of the cars here and bypass the rules of the tariffs. Many companies then started doing the same.

This effectively changed the behavior of the companies to avoid the tariffs. The end result was more manufacturing and assembly plants here - even though most of the big production tasks of the vehicles were still done overseas.

Also, there's already been several announcements of companies moving their manufacturing to the US in order to avoid getting hit with tariffs:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-commits-500-billion-to...

Nvidia (NVDA) on Monday said it will produce up to $500 billion of AI infrastructure in the US within the next four years as the tech industry looks to bolster its domestic manufacturing footprint in the face of Trump's approach to trade policy and desire to onshore more US heavy industry.

Also, Ford made some moves to avoid both US and European tariffs:

Less than a week after the White House announced its comprehensive set of tariffs, the Dearborn automaker exclusively revealed to Ford Authority its comprehensive plan to relocate all of its assembly plants to Hawaii. The move will be made possible by state of the art 3D printing technology and has the support of the United Auto Workers.

In any event, Ford envisions Hawaii as an export hub for markets outside North America and a key pillar of the company’s domestic production capabilities. Ford will utilize an obscure maritime law from World War II as a way to get completely around European and Asian tariffs, as the original intent of the legislation enabled private companies to avoid punitive trade measures to get badly needed supplies to the Allies at the height of the conflict.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by sixothree »

0xTJ wrote: post #316

Good. They're pushing overpriced low-quality junk. If you want to buy from Temu but want a better chance at reasonable prices, shop AliExpress.

I've had so much good luck with AliExpress. I wouldn't order anything I might need to return. But I've never received something that needed that. I can't begin to describe how disappointing these tariffs are going to be for me. It's not as if I can or ever will be able to buy these things locally.

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Post by aaronbaugher »

jimbob45 wrote: post #560
synergy20 wrote: post #472

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after 50 years of de-industrialization in US, it's a sad fact that US can no longer produce most of those items, yes it's totally gone. It will take a few decades to rebuild, if possible at all. For now, whatever those junks are at Amazon, there are not many options to procure them elsewhere.

This weird demoralization has to stop. We went to the moon in less than 10 years from beginning the Apollo program. It’s less than 10 years to build a nuclear power plant on average. We deployed the COVID vaccine worldwide in less than one year. Manufacturing is not that hard. If we want to do it, we can do it and we can do it quickly.

True. The biggest impediment to increased manufacturing is the pile of onerous regulations, many of which were created by the stroke of a pen since 2008, and which can be removed by another stroke of the pen.

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Post by anal_reactor »

constantcrying wrote: post #554
anal_reactor wrote: post #527

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> How deluded are you Very much, thank you, what about you?

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Why would I argue with you, if I know that your opinion is so backwards it's unsalvageable? If you met someone who genuinely believes that Earth is flat despite all the evidence to the contrary, how would you approach a discussion with them?

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Post by hangonhn »

PaulHoule wrote: post #470
arghwhat wrote: post #348

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> I personally feel bad for the environment 1 item per day is certainly not efficient, but nowadays temu and aliexpress batch things over a small period so that shouldn't really happen... > and all the people on the losing side of cheap low quality junk production Remember that taking away bad jobs does not save anyone, quite the contrary. People go from having shit jobs to no jobs, or even worse jobs with lower-prof…

I am bugged more by local environmental impacts. Around the time that manufacturing started moving to China en masse in the 1990s I started to hear about trichloroethylene contamination at manufacturing sites in the U.S. Look up "trichloroethylene united states" in Google and you'll probably get results about how our marines were exposed at Camp Jejune and are now eligible for V.A. benefits. A search for "trichloroet…

That stuff is all over Silicon Valley. Santa Clara County actually has one of the most if not the most EPA superfund sites. It's the leftover legacy of chip manufacturing. When you rent in the Bay Area, the landlord does not have to disclose TCE contamination to you. TCE can cause birth defects and low birth weight in weeks if breathed in by pregnant women. If you're renting in the Bay Area, Google the address and make sure the property is not over a TCE contamination area.

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Post by dragonwriter »

zamalek wrote: post #549
dragonwriter wrote: post #524

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Not all harms of using inadequately QC’d or deceptively marketed products are adequately remedied by a reasonably easy return and refund policy.

Especially when those retuns usually go to landfill instead of being restocked

I was thinking more of from the individual consumer perspective rather than diffuse externalities, but that's a good point as well.

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Post by squarefoot »

echoangle wrote: post #258
whatyesaid wrote: post #249

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Yeah especially as in places like London there have been many explosions and house fires originaying from cheap foreign e-bike batteries. Some Chinese companies care about a long-term brand and place high standards on themselves but it's not true that anything online has passed safety standards. It's hard to differentiate the two due to the amount of fake reviews also.

Yes, I would never buy something grid-powered from AliExpress, and I would be very careful with larger batteries.

Yes,also beware of power strips and electrical wires in general: those coming from there are increasingly made of coated iron instead of copper or brass in contacts. The side effect is a much higher resistance that makes the wire dissipate a lot more power than it should, even to the point it can overheat and catch fire if under serious load (heaters, ovens etc.). Their exceptionally bad insulation and usually smaller size than advertised make the problem even worse. Such bad cables can be used for breadboarding where small lengths and low currents mitigate the effects, but they shouldn't be considered for anything serious. I've learned to ditch almost every bundled cable coming from there after multiple bad experiences. Surplus is a good source of top notch cables that can last decades. Crappy cables can be checked using a magnet: pure copper ones won't stick. There are also reports of junk coated aluminium cables that wouldn't stick as well to a magnet, but they're rare as aluminium, at least good quality one, is not cheap.

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Post by XenophileJKO »

arghwhat wrote: post #469
XenophileJKO wrote: post #454

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The thing that really annoys me is tariffs could have been used SO much more intelligently. For example a 24 month increasing schedule. That gives business the kind of incentive to affect manufacturing and something they can plan against. But now we have a dumpster fire and tariffs will have an even worse reputation.

It might have been better reputation-wise than the current game of chicken, but tariffs will always sour economic partnerships, which in turn leads to bolstering alternative economic partnerships...

This is objectively untrue, tariffs exist all around the world and countries are still trading.

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Post by kccqzy »

constantcrying wrote: post #186

I hope temu and the other Chinese companies in that segment stop selling overseas. Their model is just incredibly destructive to the environment, they ship over the lowest quality garbage imaginable and create so much pollution and waste in the process. I also have quite a bit of disdain for people using these sites. Nobody needs this and it is just harmful all around.

It's just a natural byproduct of poverty and a shrinking middle class in the United States. HN readers are not the target customers of Temu. It's those people who are living paycheck-to-paycheck and can't afford quality goods whatsoever. It's the same as the low quality garbage found in predatory dollar stores in poor neighborhoods.

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Post by mbreese »

burningChrome wrote: post #561
GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tariffs were announced with no plan to bolster on-shore manufacturing.

The main purpose of tariffs is to change behavior for both the consumer and the manufacturers. Auto manufacturers have been doing this for decades when the US started imposing tariffs on Japanese manufacturers back in the 1970's. To get around the tariffs and still get access to the US markets, they would simply assemble the parts of the cars here and bypass the rules of the tariffs. Many companies then started doing…

You’re missing a link for the Ford news. Dare I ask when you read about Ford moving production to Hawaii? Was it in early April by chance?

https://fordauthority.com/2025/04/ford-will-avoid-trump-tari...

> We’ll have more on this never, because this was our final April Fools’ article for 2025. We hope you enjoyed all of them!

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