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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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The resistors to your local store have to go through logistics as well. And doing the last mile yourself is a lot more inefficient than a post service doing it. Transport is also quite small fraction of most products' environmental costs.

>And doing the last mile yourself is a lot more inefficient than a post service doing it. How do you figure?

One guy driving a route between 100 places is probably more efficient than 100 people all driving to and from a place.

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I don't think its so easy to pull apart what people are buying and what they want to buy. Amazon has a pretty crippling hold on the online retail industry, and they collect massive amounts of data to decide what to put in front of people. Targeted marketing and the partnership between marketing and psychology is nothing new, it has gotten stronger though. I have a hard time looking at a market run like that as a roug…

I would say there are other viable platforms people could offer on but Amazon actively punishes people for trying to work out of their ecosystem by penalizing them for offering lower prices than on Amazon

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I don't think its so easy to pull apart what people are buying and what they want to buy. Amazon has a pretty crippling hold on the online retail industry, and they collect massive amounts of data to decide what to put in front of people. Targeted marketing and the partnership between marketing and psychology is nothing new, it has gotten stronger though. I have a hard time looking at a market run like that as a roug…

It's an optimization loop where one part of the cycle (showing people stuff and seeing if they buy it) is very fast, and one part (product development) is very slow. This is sure to find local, rather than global maxima.

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US "liberal" media is being extremely cagey about what and how it reports on this admin. They know they're in its crosshairs and are doing this clumsy balancing act of trying to retain their relatively left-leaning or centrist viewers while trying not to draw any more ire. It won't work, of course, and if we continue on this trajectory you can expect that they'll change over to apologia and ass-kissing or be dismantl…

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> At this point it's basically capitlism against authoritarianism

Ha. You say that as though those things are incompatible. Some capital is putting up token resistance to the rise of authoritarianism, but it can't be a strong counterforce because that would risk retribution. Instead more and more capitalists bend the knee in hopes of favorable treatment. That's why I say the likes of CNN and NBC will switch to bootlicking before long.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Good. They're pushing overpriced low-quality junk. If you want to buy from Temu but want a better chance at reasonable prices, shop AliExpress.

There's an art to buy good products from AliExpress. You must order by number of items sold. See bad reviews. See the seller rate. They are making each time more difficult to assert the product quality. I'm super careful, but still sometimes buy from seller SHOP123456789

Part of my AliExpress purchasing workflow is checking reviews for the item I'm about to buy on Amazon, as they're (usually) higher quality than the "just received item, 5 stars" reviews on AliExpress.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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it's the whole point of the tariffs. China does an end run around all of our laws, consumer safety, human rights, workers conditions, intellectual property, all that, and in doing so they cut costs and beat domestic companies at the market. Tariffs are a tax we charge to represent those things they have immorally refused to do while participating in our market. A country can't effectively have things like a minimum w…

Do you mean this is the point of a carefully planned, deliberated, executed, and announced tariff rollout, or do you mean that's the whole point of tariffs as they are currently being implemented in the United States?

The tariffs that were announced during the campaign - the same way Ross Perot did - and the reasoning was to bring us manufacturing back to the US and reduce the tax burden on US citizens? Such as writing off car payments if the car is American?

People wigged out over non-reciprocal tariffs, where we tariff at 50% what they charge the US. People wigged out at 10℅ flat rate tariffs. "Heard island penguins get charged 10%!)

I really have to wonder how important this Chinese junk is. They make so much junk for the US, that the EU, including Von der Lyon, had to make a plan to deal with Chinese companies wanting to, and I quote here, "dump" all their exports on to the EU market.

The EU is very protectionist over their countries' economic outputs and manufacturing. But if the US does that...

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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I wonder if we can look forward to the end of the letter soup brands on Amazon, it's ridiculously difficult finding real brands in between them. That would be one silver lining in all this mess, at least.

it's the whole point of the tariffs. China does an end run around all of our laws, consumer safety, human rights, workers conditions, intellectual property, all that, and in doing so they cut costs and beat domestic companies at the market. Tariffs are a tax we charge to represent those things they have immorally refused to do while participating in our market. A country can't effectively have things like a minimum w…

I can see how hitting the EU with tariffs is going to improve human rights ... oh wait.

But on a more serious note, tariffs could have been used for what you are saying, and it would have been a beautiful thing, but I think we can agree that's not what's happening here, can't we?

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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That is not my experience with AliExpress. I usually just got my money back when I complained.

They're more likely to only give a few dollars back rather than a full refund

You have to call their bluff when they try to pull that, they don't want you to ship stuff back either. I got a full refund after a few back and forths of "are you sure you want to ship that back for a refund??".

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Worse support. Amazon usually will try and make you whole-ish, aliexpress is like lmao

That is not my experience with AliExpress. I usually just got my money back when I complained.

It probably varies based on item price and how obvious the issue is. I had two sub-$10 items arrive visibly broken recently and got refunds in under 5 minutes.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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I ended up drastically cutting back on Amazon purchases when they started getting flooded with brands like that. Its absolutely on Amazon to maintain quality. There are certain brands and types of products I'll order there because they're just harder to find otherwise, but its mostly a last resort these days given that Amazon doesn't care to curate what is on their "shelves".

I love it in terms of consumer experience. I like several products from AliExpress and the like, but sometimes find they're available for the same price or cheaper and faster with better customer service from Amazon. I don't care that they have generic brand names in either case

I'm with you. I don't really understand the complaints, since Amazon's return policy means that you aren't really taking a risk when you buy, even from randomly-named brands.
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