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> birthright citizens and full citizens Is there a difference?

They are intending to unconstitutionally remove birthright. I expect they will start having trouble slightly before third generation+ immigrants.

But… they can't remove citizenship retroactively. What I mean is today there are citizens and non-citizens, but there are no classes of citizens. Either you have citizenship or you do not, it doesn't matter how you acquired it.

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I am not a bot. In fact I welcome ideas to take them down. I am just not owned by Israel and do not disseminate their propaganda, and I frankly reject their influence on our politics. I see them as enemies of the United States, because their morals are very much not aligned with ours as far as I am concerned. Your other comments opposing blocking Israel tells me you are Israeli. I understand you could be victim of th…

It deserves to be more promiment the moral misalignment between israel and the western world, and their negative influence on politics and human rights efforts in said countries. Israel is an enemy by any moral metric.

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I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

It is not so bad in Russia. Not so many sites are blocked. You can easily read foreign news if you want to. Hacker news is not blocked for example :).

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The problem is the pro-Palestine movement irrecoverably linked themselves to Hamas, a terrorist organization, it's made supporting Palestine a toxic position to hold for anyone of any significance.

Actually it's the other way around. Fascists in Israel and the US worked very hard to make it so that anyone seen to be sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians is seen as pro Hamas, or pro terrorist. Apparently there are some that even say the Palestinian flag itself is a "terrorist flag" and anyone flying it is also a terrorist.

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Out of curiosity - how do you know they are paid trolls and not just people with those views on this issue? Personally, I don't use Reddit much, but this is definitely not the sense I get from seeing reading e.g. Twitter, in which there are plenty of extremely anti-Israel voices. Remember - we're all seeing our own personal echo chamber of content.

I assume people that are not paid have a bit of shame and they are also lazy and not work hard to justify why killing children is OK and also jump instantly a topic is posted, and also try to shut me up with accusation of being an anti-semite. There is also an easy but not perfect way to check, you look at the account age and post history. If you check a normal user account like mine you will see it ha many years lon…

> I assume people that are not paid have a bit of shame and they are also lazy and not work hard to justify why killing children is OK

In other words, you assume that people that disagree with you must be bots or paid trolls? That certainly explains why you think Reddit is full of them :)

I will often write stuff that you would probably consider pro-Israeli. I'm not a troll and don't get paid for it. Do you simply dismiss anything I say because you assume I'm either a bot or a "Israeli paid cyber warrior"? That makes you wrong, and makes you unable to ever learn new things or new perspectives.

(I'm not disputing, btw, that there are a lot of trolls. From my perspective, 90% of people posting anything about the conflict, including some major accounts, are absolutely trolls - they have no skin in the game and little real knowledge of the situation, and simply want to post provocative things, whether pro or anti, to get engagement.)

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So when the government pointed to the disproportionate support for Palestine on TikTok vs Instagram, it was actually because Instagram was suppressing it. It is ironic. https://x.com/hawleymo/status/1717505662601609401

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I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

You’re not arrested for posting this, so that is a pretty big difference to Russia (and other authoritarian nations like China and Turkey), no? https://rsf.org/en/country/russia

If you are not constantly posting fake and not recieve money from foreign entities you are not being arested at all in Russia. You may get a fine, and that's not always the case.

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While this may be part of the story, it's certainly not the full picture. We know that the CCP is actively manipulating the algorithm on Tiktok to further their agenda on multiple other geopolitical issues—something we have ample evidence for. I don't know if there is a smoking gun on this one topic in particular, but the CCP's goal has always been to divide the American audience; and we know that older Americans ske…

So, we have proof of a strong algorithm manipulation by Israel on the entire family of main US social media (those used by the older segment of the population); and yet you still manage to point your finger to a hypothetical, unproved manipulation of the algorithm on the competitors' social media to explain the difference in attitude between generations? But you have the answer here, there has been manipulation of th…

Where’s the proof? Facebook agreeing to take down some contents that violates its policies is hardly proof of anything.

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> This is nonsense, there is no genocide, ethnic cleansing, apartheid or anything of the sort. False. False. False. ‣ re: genocide [genocide Gaza]( https://www.google.com/search?q=genocide%20gaza ) ‣ re: ethnic cleansing [ethnic cleansing]( https://www.google.com/search?q=ethnic%20cleansing%20israel ) ‣ re: apartheid [apartheid `Israel`]( https://www.google.com/search?q=apartheid%20israel ) What does it say about you…

Once you get to a certain point of education on the issue you realise that it is actually laughably easy to dismantle pro-colonialist and genocide arguments on this issue, as much of the oppositing positon is based on lies and the hope that the other person finds the issue too complex to understand. All that's left is their obvious and often inhumane personal biases.
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