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Post by OhioMan2943 »

sfx77 wrote: post #517
Philpax wrote: post #508

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You're right, attacking civilians is bad. So what does it say about a nation when it kills at least fifty thousand? ( https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... )

Again, you are not differentiating between targeting and collateral damage. Hamas broke a ceasefire and targeted civilians. Israel went in to destroy Hamas with the unfortunate result of civilians dying as collateral damage. When you say 50k, there are several problems. For starters you are quoting the Gaza Health Ministry which is Hamas and is provably unreliable. On top of that about 40% of those are Hamas fighters…

It makes sense when you value one innocent israeli life the exact same as one innocent palestinian life. And Gaza hasn't had elections since 2007, and the acting European Union policy chief Josep Borell has stated on record Israel and Netenyahu deliberately funded Hamas to hinder the credibility of the Palestinian Authority, and reduce positive sentiment toward the Palestinian people, which obviously worked.

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-funded-hamas-claims-e...

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by fundad »

MPSFounder wrote: post #320
fundad wrote: post #285

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Do you mean pro-Palestinian sentiments scare you or are you afraid of expressing pro-Palestinian sentiment?

Likely he means expressing any pro-Palestine sentiments. Doxxing is very common and if Ivy League deans were taken down, immigrants are likely to be deported for expressing any empathy towards the Palestinian.

Yes that is a very legitimate fear.

But the people doing the doxxing complain that any criticism of Ire* for their war crimes makes them feel like there is no place they are safe, I don't buy it but the complainants have a lot of allies.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by sfx77 »

sfx77 wrote: post #517
Philpax wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, attacking civilians is bad. So what does it say about a nation when it kills at least fifty thousand? ( https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... )

Again, you are not differentiating between targeting and collateral damage. Hamas broke a ceasefire and targeted civilians. Israel went in to destroy Hamas with the unfortunate result of civilians dying as collateral damage. When you say 50k, there are several problems. For starters you are quoting the Gaza Health Ministry which is Hamas and is provably unreliable. On top of that about 40% of those are Hamas fighters…

Hamas was not created by Israel. Hamas was not voted in by Israel. Israel did not attack Israel. Stop blaming Israel for Hamas.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

sfx77 wrote: post #520
sfx77 wrote: post #517

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, you are not differentiating between targeting and collateral damage. Hamas broke a ceasefire and targeted civilians. Israel went in to destroy Hamas with the unfortunate result of civilians dying as collateral damage. When you say 50k, there are several problems. For starters you are quoting the Gaza Health Ministry which is Hamas and is provably unreliable. On top of that about 40% of those are Hamas fighters…

Even if that's true the civilian to combatant death ratio is around 1:1, while in most urban combat scenarios it's 9:1. You are still overlooking what Hamas did on Oct 7. Don't forget that Hamas started this conflict. You can keep attacking Israel to try and keep me on the defense, that doesn't make you right or even convincing.

I just want you to give equal value to one innocent Palestinian life as you do one innocent Israeli life. Can you do that for me?

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by sfx77 »

sfx77 wrote: post #517
Philpax wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, attacking civilians is bad. So what does it say about a nation when it kills at least fifty thousand? ( https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... )

Again, you are not differentiating between targeting and collateral damage. Hamas broke a ceasefire and targeted civilians. Israel went in to destroy Hamas with the unfortunate result of civilians dying as collateral damage. When you say 50k, there are several problems. For starters you are quoting the Gaza Health Ministry which is Hamas and is provably unreliable. On top of that about 40% of those are Hamas fighters…

I give value to every life, why don't you hold murderers responsible for their actions? Hamas is not innocent. .. btw I can't respond to you comments directly for some .. mysterious.. reason.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

sfx77 wrote: post #523
sfx77 wrote: post #517

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, you are not differentiating between targeting and collateral damage. Hamas broke a ceasefire and targeted civilians. Israel went in to destroy Hamas with the unfortunate result of civilians dying as collateral damage. When you say 50k, there are several problems. For starters you are quoting the Gaza Health Ministry which is Hamas and is provably unreliable. On top of that about 40% of those are Hamas fighters…

Hamas was not created by Israel. Hamas was not voted in by Israel. Israel did not attack Israel. Stop blaming Israel for Hamas.

I never said Hamas was innocent, I wholly welcome the ICC prosecution of Hamas leaders as I do for Israeli leaders, they both need to answer for their crimes. But when all innocent human lives are equal those who are experiencing the most suffering should get the most support? Do you agree? The only atrocities we can stop are the ones that are happening now.

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Post by spencerflem »

jwr wrote: post #434
spencerflem wrote: post #352

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They are now denying visas, and deporting lawful residents, sending them to offshore torture prisons, for social media posts. For non citizens, regardless of length of time or legality, this is the case right now. For birthright citizens and full citizens it will be the case very soon

> birthright citizens and full citizens Is there a difference?

They are intending to unconstitutionally remove birthright. I expect they will start having trouble slightly before third generation+ immigrants.

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by Duwensatzaj »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #479
esalman wrote: post #94

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I am part of a neighborhood group where I grew up in Bangladesh and lived until 5th grade in the 90s. The group admin this morning let us know via Facebook post that he has received warnings frm Facebook. The group is "at a risk of being suspended" because way too many posts relating to "dangerous organization and individuals" have been removed. He wants everyone to be extra careful when posting about p*l*s*i*e, I*r*…

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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by gronky_ »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #479
esalman wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am part of a neighborhood group where I grew up in Bangladesh and lived until 5th grade in the 90s. The group admin this morning let us know via Facebook post that he has received warnings frm Facebook. The group is "at a risk of being suspended" because way too many posts relating to "dangerous organization and individuals" have been removed. He wants everyone to be extra careful when posting about p*l*s*i*e, I*r*…

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Stating that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist has been recognized to be an antisemitic statement by many prominent institutions.

It’s a radical statement that effectively denies the rights of millions of people to exist and is especially problematic given the historical context of the establishment of Israel.

The statement gets thrown around so much in certain circles that it’s gotten normalized. You’ve apparently lost sight of or never stopped to think what actually means, to the point where you’re providing it as an example of an innocent statement that got you banned for no reason. Taking this statement out of radical activist circles and into the real world won’t go well.

Take some time to educate yourself and reflect on what it actually means.

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Post by YZF »

shihab wrote: post #125
NoTeslaThrow wrote: post #63

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Indeed. The editorial boards of these newsrooms are often staffed with people who attended the same schools and classes as those running the country. The social circles of the two worlds are extremely closely linked. Of course, this means that the reporting isn't very good at addressing its blind spots–i.e., most of the news in the country, let alone the world, that isn't relevant to the ivy league coastal elites. An…

And here is an article on Raffi berg, BBC’s Middle East editor: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/bbc-civil-war-gaza-israel-bia...

And here is an analysis of BBC's anti-Israeli bias: https://asserson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/asserson-r...

And from the BBC itself: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2d4egk17l2o "Questions still remain for BBC after damaging Gaza documentary"

https://www.ynetnews.com/culture/article/skcfkb1iyx "From bias to blunders: The BBC’s anti-Israel shift since October 7"

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