The shot in this movie where you see the nuclear missile bays was incredible.
Hunt for Red October 1990 (2016)
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Re: Hunt for Red October 1990 (2016)
#122Off topic, but always amazed me that the Russian submarine in this film has a swimming pool (more like a plunge pool) but still seems wild. https://youtu.be/JrULRXlAlMU?si=kvh64qy64E7aqXPY
The tour guide in the galley of USS Blueback noted that if the ice cream machine didn't work the submarine was not considered operational and required immediate repair.
Being on a sub is intensely mentally wearing. Months at sea, no interaction with the world outside.
Feeding the sailors lavishly is one of their few perks.
Re: Hunt for Red October 1990 (2016)
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now watch the uncut version of Das Boot undubbed (5hr8m long).
/me remorsefully remembers the cute German girl who asked him if he wanted to go see it with her. Decades later, it occurred to me that she liked me. Oh, well, story of my life!
The 5 hour uncut Das Boot is an amazing first date.
Re: Hunt for Red October 1990 (2016)
#124The book has a few mentions of an Apple II on the USS Dallas and that the sonarman, Jones, is the boat champion of Choplifter and Zork. As a nerdy teenager, I always loved that detail.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Adhesion and cohesion always fuck up scenes that combine scale models and water. Splashes always look very wrong, and in the case of a submersible bubbles could be a problem. Smoke chamber makes sense. Although in the days since “O Brother Where Art Thou?”, when they added dust-yellow color to the entire movie in post, maybe there are other ways now, if you didn’t want to go entirely to CGI.
> Adhesion and cohesion always fuck up scenes that combine scale models and water. Splashes always look very wrong Like the terrible model work in In Harm's Way .
The terrible model work at the end of Fitzcarraldo pulled me right out of the (otherwise incredible) film. They could move over mountains but not film a convincing finale!
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arguably RSR vis a vis Ukraine in 2022 is a great primer on just how much the Russian military had decayed from their mid-80s Soviet peak. You can study histories and interviews from the late Cold War about just how much of a bloodbath the NATO militaries expected a Russian invasion of West Germany to be. The USAF A-10 fleet was expected to have been wiped out in approximately 2-3 weeks of fighting based on expected…
you also need to understand that the Ukrainians... really really do not want to be part of Russia again. that's what I take away from it. they like being independent and are willing to fight this hard to stay that way. I can only imagine their utter disappointment with the outcome of the US election. but to your point, it does say a whole helluva lot about the inabilities of the Russians too. The fact they are using…
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Like, is Russia reserving its soliders on the Western front for NATO reasons rather than just using everything against Ukraine? The Russian government is treading a fine line domestically. For most Russians, the war is a not relevant to them. They do not want to fight, which is why when it became clear Russia wasn't going to have a quick victory, there was one quick and dirty mobilization that mostly sucked up peop…
From all of this, it doesn't really seem like they would be much of a threat to NATO. Except for the nukes. As far as traditional forces, there seems to be a disconnect between the fear of vs the credible threat. Or I'm just grossly misjudging things and it's a good example of why I'm not involved in any threat assessment type of position. Underestimate your opponent at your own peril type of thing
When you're willing to bankrupt your country, have internal industrial capacity at scale, and retool your industry for wartime production... any country is dangerous.
The only thing that will remove Russia as a credible threat is breaking its economy and/or aligning security guarantees with its neighbors to preclude invasion.
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The trick they use to handle the transition from Russian to English dialogue is so cool.
Agreed. As for the Russian spoken by American actors, my friend, a Russian linguist, said Alec Baldwin’s Russian was fine, but Sean Connery’s was terrible.
'Let zem zing!'
Re: Hunt for Red October 1990 (2016)
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now watch the uncut version of Das Boot undubbed (5hr8m long).
wow lol, the normal version is already 2 and a half hours and kind of a slog for something the author of the source book described as a "cheap, shallow American action flick" and a "contemporary German propaganda newsreel from World War II" you must be blessed with a very high level of masochism to want to read subtitles for 5 hours
I only wish it was longer. Also I can't stand dubs!