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Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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You're confusing up-and-coming , meaning "showing promise", with upcoming , meaning "forthcoming".

Thanks, I'm not a native english speaker so I misunderstood the idiomatic expression's true meaning.

Your understanding was correct. I think the phrase 'rising' would have been a better choice for what the parent comment meant.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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I've been using Textmate 2 for the past week or so and I still prefer 1 + missing drawer. For me, the only thing Textmate 1 is missing are split views (something 2 is missing as well). I wonder if there is still enough interest in the app where people will contribute all of the community's desired changes -- I hope there is. Am I one of the only Textmate users who feel that Sublime isn't the right "upgrade"? I much p…

I agree. Sublime is targeting cross-platform compatibility. To me that's diluting the virtues of all the systems it works on. It's not the best editor for Mac OS X, it's not the best editor for UNIX. It's not the best editor for Windows. I prefer stronger opinion with an editor. I don't care if you have an awesome editor that only works on Windows as long as I have an awesome editor that works on my preferred OS. Awe…

Have you used Sublime? What parts of it are not native enough on Windows and Mac?

The keyboard shortcuts follow whatever is expected on that platform. They have support for specifying different keyboard shortcuts for different OSs so 3rd party packages can also provide out-of-the-box settings that are native to each platform.

It does Lion-style save/resume your workspace so even if you shut down and restart, it opens all your sessions with unsaved work and scratch buffers still the same.

I'm not sure I found anything that made me feel this was a Mac app ported to Windows or vice versa.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Vim has snippets too. I'm sure there's an Eclipse/Visual Studio plugin that provides the same functionality. There's really nothing revolutionary in here.

Vim does have snippets, the plugin is called snip-mate. Why do you suppose that is? ;)

Vim has dozen of snippet scripts: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script_search_results.php?keyword...

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Vim does have snippets, the plugin is called snip-mate. Why do you suppose that is? ;)

Vim has dozen of snippet scripts: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script_search_results.php?keyword...

They do, but 2 of the top 3 mention TextMate in the title!!

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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I really want to like ST2, because it seems to have the fastest text engine of the current crop of editors; but as a Mac application, it's just barely better than Emacs. 1) The GUI is incomplete: look at the preferences, for instance. To change a setting, you have to open the defaults settings file, find the setting you want, copy it into a different file (user settings), and change it there. Actually, I take it back…

The fact that settings are in a text file that I can easily sync is a GOOD thing. I don't have to rely on some godawful third party service to sync settings, I can just export them to Dropbox or throw them on a Git repo. This is one of the many things people love about Vim too, that you can set up your editor in a minute instead of trawling through GUI menus.

I 100% agree with this. I was able to easily sync my settings between Linux, Windows and OS X for ST2, and easily find options because they are all in ONE file (Ctrl+F -what I need-), esp. considering they are very well documented. Still not as good as Netbeans for PHP/HTML (especially since it's not free), but a good settings system.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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I stopped using TM1 for one reason: undo (which is one. character. at. a. time.) TM had a lot of fans, but no-one liked its undo (some didn't dislike it that much). TM2 alpha didn't fix it. Gave up.

That's actually one of the things I miss most when using other editors. Most seem to undo a bit too much.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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VIM learning curve.. It takes 2 hours (at least it did for me 8 years ago) to go through vimtutor, which means you can do all the basic stuff like with any editor. That's it. From that point you can stay or go how ever far you want. From using the editor "the notepad level", go nuts by building a database of key shortcuts and commands in your head. Is 2 hours a considerably "steep learning curve" for the thing you ar…

Compared to zero hours for a more traditional editor like TextMate or Sublime Text 2 that has command-S as save? Sure is. Also, at the point that you first pick up an editor like Vim, you have no idea whether it's going to work for you, so the 8 hours/day is a furphy.

MacVim supports stuff like Cmd-S for Save just fine.
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