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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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pjc50 wrote: post #369
TwoNineA wrote: post #142

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> Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. From my point of view, if POTUS blathers about annexing Canada, then the US doesn't deserve my tourist dollars, neither my Netflix subscription, neither my Amazon prime subscription. I've cut back on purchases/subscriptions from US companies as much as it…

The threats to Canada aren't attracting nearly as much attention as they should. The problem is people have got too used to just assuming that what Trump says is bullshit: it's just there to sound good on the news, there's no intent to actually do it. Then the tariffs hit. If there's the slightest possibility that what he says is not bullshit, then Canada needs to take it very seriously and the entire northern hemisp…

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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

ty6853 wrote: post #482
DeathArrow wrote: post #335

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So you genuinely think that if you go to the US you have a high risk of being imprisoned without due process even if you you don't break any US law?

Lol there is no due process at the border for a simple imprisonment, it is 'administrative' and I have been held up to a day or so without any sort of hearing. I pulled my FBI record from the last time they tossed me in immigration holding cell, there is no record of it. They don't allow you to have a phone, they do not let you have an attorney, and they do not document they've imprisoned you. They lock you away and…

Just look at the Chinese woman that died while the Border Patrol held her. They didn't release that she commited suicide it only came out because media kept requesting information on her otherwise Border Patrol wouldn't have released anything.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/04/us/chinese-woman-detained...

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by footy »

DeathArrow wrote: post #511
pjc50 wrote: post #369

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The threats to Canada aren't attracting nearly as much attention as they should. The problem is people have got too used to just assuming that what Trump says is bullshit: it's just there to sound good on the news, there's no intent to actually do it. Then the tariffs hit. If there's the slightest possibility that what he says is not bullshit, then Canada needs to take it very seriously and the entire northern hemisp…

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Too bad, they can try again. No need to drag the rest of is into that mess.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by [deleted] »

casey2 wrote: post #504
ziddoap wrote: post #243

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> there's never backstory given There's no backstory that justifies indefinite detention without due process.

Sounds like due process was exactly what she got. Are you suggesting everybody gets a trial before they are deported? Or that the US has to allow you to enter if you do so legally, determined by trial? Either will result in much, much longer deportation times.

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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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pjc50 wrote: post #379
enaaem wrote: post #281

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Most stuff on Amazon is made in China anyways. Might as well order directly from Aliexpress or the producer's website. Exactly the same items, but without the American middleman.

There's definitely going to be some sort of EU-China rapprochement now. Not that China is less oppressive - they remain more oppressive, and I wouldn't like to, say, get caught with weed going into China. But they're much less loudly annoying about it. (another one to watch out for: opiate painkillers in your hand luggage into Middle Eastern states, including Dubai.)

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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by DeathArrow »

jajko wrote: post #171
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #96

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This is off topic, but I've actually found comfort in how it has galvanised Europe. What worries me is which side the US (government, not people) would choose to support if EU states send troops to Ukraine's front lines, which would absolutely instigate a Russian response. (Trump wouldn't like that the little EU states are messing with his negotiations for the shrinking and pillaging of Ukraine, and Trump is, if noth…

A defining pillar of a society is either a very strong common goal or enemy. US supplanted both, so yeah actually thank you for that. My 2 cents - wanted to take family on a trip to western US, parks and maybe SF, not in fucking hell now or in next 2 decades. I know its just some tiny drop in the bucket, but that ~10k spent locally in those few weeks will be spent elsewhere and if enough people will do the same (whic…

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Post by aorloff »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #434
egorfine wrote: post #374

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Your comment could be understood both ways lol

A certain cohort of the population ignores logic and reason, and runs on vibes and tribalism. They will only understand economic pain, when it hurts them personally, based on the evidence. And so, the rest of the world must incur economic pain in the US so the electorate understands its place in the economic system.

Somehow, they will still blame Biden, Kamala and Obama.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by DeathArrow »

CapricornNoble wrote: post #415
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #96

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This is off topic, but I've actually found comfort in how it has galvanised Europe. What worries me is which side the US (government, not people) would choose to support if EU states send troops to Ukraine's front lines, which would absolutely instigate a Russian response. (Trump wouldn't like that the little EU states are messing with his negotiations for the shrinking and pillaging of Ukraine, and Trump is, if noth…

>What worries me is which side the US (government, not people) would choose to support if EU states send troops to Ukraine's front lines, which would absolutely instigate a Russian response. Even the Biden administration was going out of its way to not push Russia too far. None of The Powers That Be in the US are interested in stumbling into WW3 with Russia, over Ukraine. Stumbling into WW3 with China, over Taiwan? M…

>Assuming Europe, collectively, can even change the balance of power on the ground is also a stretch.

They don't have a meaningful military but they have very big mouths. I don't think they are so stupid to enter a war they will surely lose.

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Post by DeathArrow »

s_dev wrote: post #174
aiisahik wrote: post #13

Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…

Ireland or at least Dublin Airport is unique in that it has 'US Preclearance' so when you land you simply pick up your bags at the carousel and leave the airport as you've passed US immigration based in Dublin Airport. This means if you're going to be denied entry it will probably be in Dublin which will make it a preferred airport of origin within the EU -- this is massively more convenient than getting stuck in JFK…

How can US border police work in a foreign country where they don't have a jurisdiction?

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Post by DeathArrow »

danmaz74 wrote: post #69
aiisahik wrote: post #13

Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…

I'm Italian, my wife is Russian and my sister lives with her family in California. I've always been pretty vocal online about my dislike for Putin, and since the war in Ukraine started, I became very worried about visiting Russia, just in case they needed some random Italian guy to extort concessions from the Italian government. So, I stopped going (we were planning a family trip right in the Summer of 2022). For thi…

>I've always been pretty vocal about my dislike for Trump too. Well, for the first time, I'm worried that, when traveling to the US, some overzealous TSA agent could ask me to get access to my social media accounts, and that I could be refused entry, or even get sent to one of those wonderful privately owned jails;

I've been a vocal Trump supporter on social media. By this measure they should give me a green card if I'll ever plan to visit US.

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