wtf is a generation anyway? I'm gen-Y but my sister who's 4 years older is gen-x? Basically these articles are corporate HR people bitching about people realizing that they've become disposable--the corporate/employee contract has dissolved--and responding accordingly.
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My eyeballs involuntarily roll up just the same, but I think it's only because it's an erroneous generalization. Generation Y is starting to split in half, but I don't think anyone's really taking notice.
What split are you seeing? I'm very curious.
I've been noticing it for a while, but it became ever more evident to me when I read this (http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html)
Namely, Gen Y is beginning to segment into those who'd rather keep up with the jonses and be immersed in culture (typically younger members of Gen Y), those who'd rather be more involved in social matters (the median), and those who are more focused on establishing their lives for the future as THE primary goal.
And the amazing thing is, it's incredibly migratory. The younger groups who follow MTV culture either phase out of it, and move into the second category, or cling to the pop lifestyle and migrate over into one of the other two, using pop as a blanket for wherever they go.
It makes little sense right now, I plan to research it rather fully this summer.
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#34So sick of crap like this. I'm Gen-X and very much remember being called whiny and entitled. We were neither -- no more than any 20-somethings have ever been.
Don't pay too much attention to the article - Macleans magazine's core demographic is primarily boomer. This is just a feel-good article for them.
[edit] Now that I think of it, this is terribly ironic. An article complaining about how Gen-Yers all want gold stars and reassurances that they're good... written for boomers who want gold stars and reassurances that they're good :)
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#35Being born in 1981, which according to wikipedia is the last year of Gen X, the following year, 1982, being the beginning of Gen Y, I consider myself more of a Gen X'er than a Gen Y'er. That said, just from the point of view of software, it is not fair I don't think to call Gen Y "entitled" because there is a lot more to know about technology than there was even 10 years ago. To keep up, people always need to be lear…
What happens when deprecated purveyors of old technology get hit with web 2.0 and 3.0? The answer is they get replaced. By the same Gen Y they so despise. That's not really true tho'. The skills of uploading a video to YouTube or making a website with PHP are insignificant compared to inventing TCP and wiring the entire planet with bandwidth. Could Gen Y bootstrap the Internet if it didn't already exist? That's an op…
Every generation has its great engineering challenges. While you may have invented TCP and wired up the planet, Gen Y'ers are here inventing HSPA and wireless-ing up the planet. New technologies will always come along, and there will never be a shortage of difficult technologies to implement.
To think that because you guys started this whole internet thing means there's no difficult work left to do? That's absurd.
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#36One of the comments was probably better than the actual article: http://blog.macleans.ca/2009/01/14/dude-where%E2%80%99s-my-j...
Agreed. There must be something about the gravitational center of my eyeballs that causes them to roll upwards toward the ceiling whenever someone refers to this generation as 'entitled.'
I get the same feeling whenever someone tries to generalise a whole group of people, merely because they were born within a few years of each other.
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#37wtf is a generation anyway? I'm gen-Y but my sister who's 4 years older is gen-x? Basically these articles are corporate HR people bitching about people realizing that they've become disposable--the corporate/employee contract has dissolved--and responding accordingly.
I'm gen-Y but my sister who's 4 years older is gen-x?
They keep having kids at younger and younger ages....
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
What split are you seeing? I'm very curious.
I've been noticing it for a while, but it became ever more evident to me when I read this ( http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html ) Namely, Gen Y is beginning to segment into those who'd rather keep up with the jonses and be immersed in culture (typically younger members of Gen Y), those who'd rather be more involved in social matters (the median), and those who are more focused on establishing their live…
That is an interesting article. Supposedly I'm at the leading edge of the millenials, having been born in late 1982. But not a single person I know resembles these characters portrayed as hipsters.
On the other hand, I know quite a few civic-minded and tech-savvy peers who do give a damn.
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What happens when deprecated purveyors of old technology get hit with web 2.0 and 3.0? The answer is they get replaced. By the same Gen Y they so despise. That's not really true tho'. The skills of uploading a video to YouTube or making a website with PHP are insignificant compared to inventing TCP and wiring the entire planet with bandwidth. Could Gen Y bootstrap the Internet if it didn't already exist? That's an op…
Every generation has its great engineering challenges. While you may have invented TCP and wired up the planet, Gen Y'ers are here inventing HSPA and wireless-ing up the planet. New technologies will always come along, and there will never be a shortage of difficult technologies to implement. To think that because you guys started this whole internet thing means there's no difficult work left to do? That's absurd.
I have a feeling that most of the real engineering that happens today (including wireless as you said) are actually depending quite a lot on the generation before Gen-Y. Gen-Y can't take credit for much of anything really. The only exception is some of the "Web 2.0" stuff.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every generation has its great engineering challenges. While you may have invented TCP and wired up the planet, Gen Y'ers are here inventing HSPA and wireless-ing up the planet. New technologies will always come along, and there will never be a shortage of difficult technologies to implement. To think that because you guys started this whole internet thing means there's no difficult work left to do? That's absurd.
I have a feeling that most of the real engineering that happens today (including wireless as you said) are actually depending quite a lot on the generation before Gen-Y. Gen-Y can't take credit for much of anything really. The only exception is some of the "Web 2.0" stuff.
Well, give them some time. They're not all even born yet, from what I hear.