Google NYC had "afternoon tea"? What does that even mean?
I've heard rumor that there is a whole country that does this on some funny little island on the other side of the world.
Dude, Where's My Job?
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Agreed. There must be something about the gravitational center of my eyeballs that causes them to roll upwards toward the ceiling whenever someone refers to this generation as 'entitled.'
Repeating something that has been said so many times that it has become popular wisdom is an easy way to fill word count.
My eyeballs involuntarily roll up just the same, but I think it's only because it's an erroneous generalization. Generation Y is starting to split in half, but I don't think anyone's really taking notice.
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#23Fail.
They graduated with the expectation that it was going to be a sellers’ market, that they were going to have multiple offers, step into an upper management role and have significant strategic impact on a Fortune 500 company, and that’s just not the reality.
What? The moderate expansion of 2004-07 has barely passed and already it's being romanticized and blown out of proportion. The OP is completely out of touch with reality.
Getting into an upper-management role out of college, and having significant impact on a Fortune 500 company, did not happen, except for extremely well-connected people. The median Ivy grad, much less median college grad, did not have that as an option, and no one expected it either.
In fact, the major reason the bulk of the talent went into finance was its reputation for having a faster career track. They would rather pay dues for 4 years working 70 hours per week than for 10 years working 50.
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#24One of the comments was probably better than the actual article: http://blog.macleans.ca/2009/01/14/dude-where%E2%80%99s-my-j...
I'm a 'late boomer' and teach high school CS to the so-called 'entitled.' I can say from personal experience that while there is indeed a percentage who follow that modus operandi, the truth is that the current crop of high schoolers work a lot harder at their studies than I ever did, have more pressure to perform well on standardized tests than ever before, face a future marbled with inordinate debt obligations from their undergraduate and graduate degrees, and see a marketplace unsure about where, or if, their skills matter.
This article sucks and the author should be ashamed of herself for not doing better research into this generation before writing them off as a bunch of incompetent brats. They are far from it.
This generation represents our future lady. Disparagement might keep you employed by selling magazines and newspapers to a dwindling audience but encouragement rebuilds nations and economies and provides hope to the billions yet to come.
These are great kids. We should celebrate them. They play by rules 'we' have set for them and as I have said, they work incredibly hard against all odds. It is my belief they will ultimately drive a worldwide entrepreneurial explosion unseen before. Not out of greed, as this article incorrectly infers about their parents, but out of pure necessity. In that regard, they are very much like their grandparents just after WWII and we all know what that generation accomplished for us.
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#25Being born in 1981, which according to wikipedia is the last year of Gen X, the following year, 1982, being the beginning of Gen Y, I consider myself more of a Gen X'er than a Gen Y'er. That said, just from the point of view of software, it is not fair I don't think to call Gen Y "entitled" because there is a lot more to know about technology than there was even 10 years ago. To keep up, people always need to be lear…
What happens when deprecated purveyors of old technology get hit with web 2.0 and 3.0? The answer is they get replaced. By the same Gen Y they so despise.
That's not really true tho'. The skills of uploading a video to YouTube or making a website with PHP are insignificant compared to inventing TCP and wiring the entire planet with bandwidth. Could Gen Y bootstrap the Internet if it didn't already exist? That's an open question.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Repeating something that has been said so many times that it has become popular wisdom is an easy way to fill word count.
My eyeballs involuntarily roll up just the same, but I think it's only because it's an erroneous generalization. Generation Y is starting to split in half, but I don't think anyone's really taking notice.
What split are you seeing? I'm very curious.
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#29Same as it ever was. I narrowly miss the Gen Y cut-off, but was popular to bag on my generation's failings when we were first entering the workforce. Whatever. (Aside: You don't even need a Kindle to spot this author's crutch words. Am I the only one who thought the repeated use of "cohort" was unusual? Dude, where's your thesaurus?)
The word "cohort" is a technical term in demographic studies, and the correct word for the article.
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#30Being born in 1981, which according to wikipedia is the last year of Gen X, the following year, 1982, being the beginning of Gen Y, I consider myself more of a Gen X'er than a Gen Y'er. That said, just from the point of view of software, it is not fair I don't think to call Gen Y "entitled" because there is a lot more to know about technology than there was even 10 years ago. To keep up, people always need to be lear…
What happens when deprecated purveyors of old technology get hit with web 2.0 and 3.0? The answer is they get replaced. By the same Gen Y they so despise. That's not really true tho'. The skills of uploading a video to YouTube or making a website with PHP are insignificant compared to inventing TCP and wiring the entire planet with bandwidth. Could Gen Y bootstrap the Internet if it didn't already exist? That's an op…
That's kind of a bullshit question. Of course we could. We don't need to re-invent Internet protocols (beyond fixing the mistakes of the previous generation -- IPv4 and DNS flaws, anyone?) at this point though.
Right now, it's more profitable to build on the platform we grew up with than to think about reinventing it. Programming talent and intelligence haven't suddenly declined in my generation thanks to the Internet and PHP. There have always been crappy programmers -- they just use PHP instead of BASIC now.