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Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by _lvbh »

fitblipper wrote: post #27

Organic Maps is great and I'm hoping the transition to Forgejo goes smoothly for the project. I've recently started hiking and just generally going outside in my community more. When I relied on Google Maps I would get some random business highlighted when navigating around. Since I switched to Organic Maps I see trails, artwork, parks, scenic views, etc, etc that I never knew existed even in my own neighborhood. I a…

I travel by foot or public transport 90% of the time and don't have a SIM card with data (only for emergency calls). Organic maps has been amazing - just download the map ahead of time and never get lost again

Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by egometry »

mdaniel wrote: post #29
sschueller wrote: post #15

I didn't know forgejo existed and I have been using gitlab ce which is getting more and more difficult to deal with for just home use. All of a sudden I see that I am no longer getting minor updates because my debian version isn't the latest and during my last update it broke the db again. forgejo seems to have everything I need including CI pipeline and container registry so I am definitely going to give it a try be…

> including CI pipeline You'll want to be cautious, because readme and promises are not software; they're attempting to squat on[1] nektos/act[2] which itself is the 20/80 of GitHub Actions You'll almost certainly be happier using woodpecker[3] or some other "external" CI system so you don't have to hopes-and-prayers your CI system 1: https://code.forgejo.org/forgejo/act 2: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/src/ta…

what do you mean by "squat on"?

Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by buyucu »

mraniki wrote: post #5

Why blocked? > We have a temporary glitch with GitHub—probably some contributor was geolocated in a sanctioned region (no details yet). All required documents to unlock the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. Please be patient. It should be unblocked soon. https://mastodon.social/@organicmaps/114155428924741370

Just following orders is evil.

It's good that Organic Maps is leaving Microsoft behind.

Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by happymellon »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #33
happymellon wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a reasonable reason to dump a service that will just block you. Nothing you put there sounds like a reason not to move, in fact it sounds like all the more reason to do it.

>Sounds like a reasonable reason to dump a service that will just block you. ANY and I mean absolutely ANY service can just block you if they think you're violating ToS, including Google/Android and Apple.

One of the contributors might be from a sanctioned country, and therefore it's reasonable to block everyone?

That absolutely does not sound reasonable to everyone else.

Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

tomrod wrote: post #13
mraniki wrote: post #5

Why blocked? > We have a temporary glitch with GitHub—probably some contributor was geolocated in a sanctioned region (no details yet). All required documents to unlock the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. Please be patient. It should be unblocked soon. https://mastodon.social/@organicmaps/114155428924741370

> the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. "I was just following orders" is an invalid defense.

It's not a defense, it's information about the correct place to complain.

Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

mcv wrote: post #34
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So a corporation should be in contempt with US law just to uphold a moral high ground for a some random user?

Sounds like another reason not to repy on US-based services.

Until Forgejo does the same.

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As defined by its Bylaws, its goal is to “guarantee the openness and continued availability of free software”.

Forgejo has to abide by Codeberg’s goals. We believe that this arrangement reinforces the longevity of Forgejo, as far as the project’s stability and financial security is concerned.

Codeberg e.V. owns Forgejo’s domains, provides resources and cooperates closely with Forgejo.

Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

happymellon wrote: post #45
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Sounds like a reasonable reason to dump a service that will just block you. ANY and I mean absolutely ANY service can just block you if they think you're violating ToS, including Google/Android and Apple.

One of the contributors might be from a sanctioned country, and therefore it's reasonable to block everyone? That absolutely does not sound reasonable to everyone else.

Sanctions were transitive for awhile.

Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by mdaniel »

egometry wrote: post #42
mdaniel wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> including CI pipeline You'll want to be cautious, because readme and promises are not software; they're attempting to squat on[1] nektos/act[2] which itself is the 20/80 of GitHub Actions You'll almost certainly be happier using woodpecker[3] or some other "external" CI system so you don't have to hopes-and-prayers your CI system 1: https://code.forgejo.org/forgejo/act 2: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/src/ta…

what do you mean by "squat on"?

They didn't attempt to build a GitHub Action implementation, they took a known broken one and attempted to duct tape it, so now it's the worst of both worlds: maybe theirs is somehow better, but because everyone in the world knows how terrible act is, they have to say "oh, we built in top of act, but we added some things, fixed others, broke something else, and who knows[1] but good luck to you, our beta testers"

Had act been a known working project, maybe it would have been worth the risk of forking it, or hitching their wagon to it, but to take a weekender project and attempt to build the entire CI system on top of it is insanity. Well, it would have been insanity in a world before having software that sometimes works and sometimes gaslights you became VCs shoveling money. So don't listen to me, I obviously just haven't gotten on the "maybe it works" train

1: https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/user/actions/#:~:text=used%2...

Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft

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Post by happymellon »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #48
happymellon wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the contributors might be from a sanctioned country, and therefore it's reasonable to block everyone? That absolutely does not sound reasonable to everyone else.

Sanctions were transitive for awhile.

Are you trying to say that it *is* reasonable for an Open Source project to expect this?
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