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What’s a good country to operate from?
Which country protected Assange? Oops, also not recommended. So none.
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Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
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What’s a good country to operate from?
I think this is the wrong question when scoping to this problem, as governance and politics are not static. A favorable country to operate out of today is perhaps not favorable tomorrow. I think the better question is: "How do you operate an open source project with global contributors in a way that makes you censorship resistant?"
You should have no single point of failure, folks should be signing their commits (cryptographic integrity), build the merkle tree, make it broadly consumable, etc. If a POP gets nuked, you bring up a replacement and keep on chuggin', just like if you were The Pirate Bay, Archive.today, Libgen, Z-Library, etc. Some similarities to how the AT Protocol is structured (Commits->PDS->Firehose->AppView) [1]. Commits go in, views of the project are available globally, the data corpus is stored in a durable, distributed fashion.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Protocol#/media/File:Bluesk...
Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
#13Why blocked? > We have a temporary glitch with GitHub—probably some contributor was geolocated in a sanctioned region (no details yet). All required documents to unlock the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. Please be patient. It should be unblocked soon. https://mastodon.social/@organicmaps/114155428924741370
> the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law.
"I was just following orders" is an invalid defense.
Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
#14Why blocked? > We have a temporary glitch with GitHub—probably some contributor was geolocated in a sanctioned region (no details yet). All required documents to unlock the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. Please be patient. It should be unblocked soon. https://mastodon.social/@organicmaps/114155428924741370
> the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. "I was just following orders" is an invalid defense.
i mean ok but no one is being killed or tortured or even kidnapped here.
Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
#15I didn't know forgejo existed and I have been using gitlab ce which is getting more and more difficult to deal with for just home use. All of a sudden I see that I am no longer getting minor updates because my debian version isn't the latest and during my last update it broke the db again.
forgejo seems to have everything I need including CI pipeline and container registry so I am definitely going to give it a try before trying to update gitlab.
Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
#16What’s the latest in Forgejo vs. Gitea?
Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
#17Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
#18Why blocked? > We have a temporary glitch with GitHub—probably some contributor was geolocated in a sanctioned region (no details yet). All required documents to unlock the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. Please be patient. It should be unblocked soon. https://mastodon.social/@organicmaps/114155428924741370
> Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub
I don't think this is a question of blame, rather than suitability. In the spirit of blameless postmortem, I'll state that GitHub was found unsuitable for hosting a FOSS project.
Why it's unsuitable is truly a secondary question, but it shouldn't prevent us, Free Software maintainers, from drawing necessary conclusions.
Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
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> the account have been uploaded. Don't blame Microsoft/GitHub - it is just U.S. law. "I was just following orders" is an invalid defense.
i mean ok but no one is being killed or tortured or even kidnapped here.
I think it's not bad to remember people from time to time that "just following orders" oder "Just doing my job" isn't an universal excuse and that we hanged people rightfully for "just" doing that. If that's your only excuse for what you're doing you may should at least deeply think again if what you're doing is excusable.
They only want to protect MS in this case, I guess to increase their chance to resolve it positively.
But I just recently thought about this. If you develop exploits for say NSO und a journalist gets tortured to death. Should you be put on trial? I'm not sure why not tbh.
Re: Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft
#20I didn't know forgejo existed and I have been using gitlab ce which is getting more and more difficult to deal with for just home use. All of a sudden I see that I am no longer getting minor updates because my debian version isn't the latest and during my last update it broke the db again. forgejo seems to have everything I need including CI pipeline and container registry so I am definitely going to give it a try be…
It's also way easier than Gitlab to selfhost. Been running it for some time on small office NAS and it's solid.