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Post by Marazan »

pembrook wrote: post #799
mentalgear wrote: post #761

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I'd recommend for Entrepreneurs, just like Scientists now do, to consider Europe as a safe-haven. In the EU the rule of law still matters.

Not sure how you could possibly come up with this idea — but I’d recommend not consuming hysterical media narratives and instead looking at actual data. This is a chart of globally relevant companies founded in Europe in the last 50 years: https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/s/1Fn23uYVxK The data depicts the exact opposite of what you are saying. As an entrepreneur, you can be “safe” knowing you will have far less ch…

Historical data is not great for forming an argument when the basis is that things have radically changed and historical results don't matter anymore.

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Post by Marazan »

pembrook wrote: post #810
ta1243 wrote: post #803

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Stop pretending that America of today is anything like America of 15 years ago

Please elaborate on the anti-entrepreneur shifts that have occurred in the US in the last 15 years that would disrupt this trend. I’m not aware of them. If this were true, 15 years would definitely be enough time to show up in some form of data you can cite about the death of American startup culture.

Who is talking about the last 15 years? We are talking about the last 15 weeks.

America has jut installed a corrupt autocratic government that has immediately become mired in corruption, graft and defiance of the rule of law.

That will have a negative effect going forward.

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Post by rco8786 »

mehphp wrote: post #865
aucisson_masque wrote: post #839

How is trump staff using signal for classified military actions different from Clinton use of private email account ? Back then he said she should be put in jail but now he is downplaying it. How can Americans take this guy seriously is beyond my mind.

For whatever reason norms/laws just don’t apply to Trump. He’s above the law; it’s baffling.

Yes exactly. Not sure why either. But laws do not apply to him, they never have, and they never will. He knows that, too.

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

bcye wrote: post #460
sethammons wrote: post #413

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this site has some governors in place to prevent a flood of low quality engagement. If things rise too fast, they get pushed down a little and cool off and rise back up. No great conspiracy as I found this thread at the top of HN a day later.

Is there a place where all these rules are written? There's so much supposed meta-HN knowledge in the discussions

Read dang comments? https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dang

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Post by coldtea »

mentalgear wrote: post #761
Folcon wrote: post #717

I'm an external individual to the US, but I must admit that some of the sentiments being expressed here in this thread and elsewhere about the lack of accountability deeply concern me, it reminds me of many things I saw growing up and still see today in south asia. Independent of anything else, I do see the overton window shifting in the US, the most subtle of which are norms and expectations around acts of corruptio…

I'd recommend for Entrepreneurs, just like Scientists now do, to consider Europe as a safe-haven. In the EU the rule of law still matters.

Sure, that's why von der Leyen run the huge Pfizer deals then conveniently "lost" the SMS about them, hired her pals as defense consultants hiding €100+ million of the costs and the decisions which favored the companies supporting her (e.g. lucrative contracts were awarded to the global consulting giant McKinsey & Company, where von der Leyen's son works as an associate, and several other cases.

And she is just the tip of the iceberg of EU corruption. In general such politicians only get repercusions selectively, and usually only when the political direction changes and they're no longer useful to the establishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizergate

https://www.politico.eu/article/5-things-to-know-about-ursul...

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Post by j16sdiz »

inamorty wrote: post #811
somenameforme wrote: post #784

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The grass isn't always greener. I think the core underlying issue at all of this is social divides within countries. When groups of people become sufficiently antagonistic towards one another, it really enables widespread corruption because people will actively blind themselves (or handwave away) to the wrongs of "their side" and magnify the wrongs of "the other side" with no limits to the hyperbole. And Europe is mo…

But public perception doesn’t necessarily reflect actual levels of corruption. Having dodgy planning approved is not the same as buying a seat at the head of the government for a quarter billion dollars.

Public perception do not reflect actual corruption, but it affects how likely people try to start a new business.

IMO, this is more important.

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Post by s_dev »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #763
fpoling wrote: post #733

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> because this is death to entrepreneurship This does not follow. Even in highly corrupt authoritarian countries entrepreneurship can flourish. Just consider Turkey or Russia. In such places one quickly learn whom to pay with corruption payouts becoming business expenses.

Can you mention some Russian success stories to back that up?

Wasn't this the whole shtick with Navalny -- minority shareholders rights being trampled and he set about trying to critique the Russian government. Or Bill Browder who was doing business in Russia until the Russian government literally killed his colleague.

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Post by [deleted] »

whiplash451 wrote: post #809
varius wrote: post #806

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Then send a message to the producer. The law requires for caps to be attached but doesn't describe how. I have a water bottle next to me that has a cap connected by one long piece after opening that doesn't touch my face at all when drinking. Sure, Europe has some red tape that should be removed but don't paint it as some kind of Kafka's universe because it's not that bad. I'm from east side of Iron Curtain and I rem…

Same answer as GDPR: when the majority/all of the companies implement it in a way that hurts everyone (businesses and end users alike), then the problem is with the regulator, not the regulated.

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Post by jkbyc »

whiplash451 wrote: post #790
mentalgear wrote: post #761

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I'd recommend for Entrepreneurs, just like Scientists now do, to consider Europe as a safe-haven. In the EU the rule of law still matters.

Europe suffers from another kind of "corruption", more akin to a corrupted file system: absurd, rigid and unpredictable regulation makes life very hard for businesses, which drives large private capital away. I am European, and every time I open one of those stupid locked-on bottle caps, I feel pain for my country, for Europe (and for my face).

One EU AI startup even named itself after these bottle caps:) https://www.bottlecapai.com/

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Post by StefanBatory »

hoistbypetard wrote: post #305
frenchman_in_ny wrote: post #296

In the banking world, employees have been fined significant sums, or even forced from their jobs [0], for unauthorized use of messaging platforms. And here, it's barely a shrug. Unbelievable. [0] https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/morgan-stanley-hit-...

In the government world, people have been jailed for it. Not people so directly connected to a president, though.

Laws no longer apply to them - laws bound people below. If you're interested what will follow, look into Russia or Hungary.
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