U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat

Post by branko_d » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 6:11 AM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #532

guerrilla wrote: post #438

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this was one of the main points on infosec Mastodon today. While everyone is aware enough to be concerned with encryption over the wire, it's the endpoints that matter. Personal Android devices capable of running Signal are going to be some of the easiest to compromise for a sufficiently motivated attacker. I've seen n00b cops do it for drug gangs here. There's no question that Russia, China, et al. can do it ju…

Exactly. Signal on Android uses your phone PIN, for some insane reason.

Post by 20after4 » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 6:20 AM UTC

georgeplusplus wrote: post #617

joshuamerrill wrote: post #457

I began my career in a classified environment working on government satellite programs. In my first week on the job, I was told, explicitly, that if I shared Classified or Controlled Unclassified information over unapproved channels, I would be reprimanded—likely fired, or less likely, prosecuted. It was also made clear that safeguarding the nation's secrets from the carelessness of others was my responsibility, too.…

>>>In my first week on the job, I was told, explicitly, that if I shared Classified or Controlled Unclassified information over unapproved channels, I would be reprimanded—likely fired, or less likely, prosecuted. Now, I’m not replying to you about the morality of what happened or to tell my opinion of what is right and what is wrong. But do you honestly believe the president is held to the same standard as you? Woul…

Post by jimt1234 » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 6:31 AM UTC

Folcon wrote: post #717

I'm an external individual to the US, but I must admit that some of the sentiments being expressed here in this thread and elsewhere about the lack of accountability deeply concern me, it reminds me of many things I saw growing up and still see today in south asia. Independent of anything else, I do see the overton window shifting in the US, the most subtle of which are norms and expectations around acts of corruptio…

Post by jimt1234 » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 6:39 AM UTC

sarcasmatwork wrote: post #647

joshuamerrill wrote: post #478

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Because I don't know whether either of those are appropriate. There aren't many comparable breaches to this one. The closest in modern times may be Hillary Clinton's email server being used for government business. In that case, the FBI investigated and declined to bring charges, under the expectation that a jury would be unlikely to render a guilty verdict. Okay, fine. But the FBI investigated and laid out the facts…

Incorrect. "Clinton has said that she never used her personal email to send information that was marked classified at the time, although some of her emails had been retroactively classified. Comey says that's not true. Of 30,000 emails Clinton turned over to the State Department in 2014, FBI investigators found 110 emails containing information that was classified at the time the email was sent. Eight of those were t…

Post by jimt1234 » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 6:49 AM UTC

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #645

joshuamerrill wrote: post #457

I began my career in a classified environment working on government satellite programs. In my first week on the job, I was told, explicitly, that if I shared Classified or Controlled Unclassified information over unapproved channels, I would be reprimanded—likely fired, or less likely, prosecuted. It was also made clear that safeguarding the nation's secrets from the carelessness of others was my responsibility, too.…

Do we actually believe this was accidental? This seems like the most obvious “oops I leaked it to the press” I’ve ever seen. Now Europe “accidentally saw” what the American powers were saying and it’s going to influence them. I’m not at all sold that this was some ball that was dropped.