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There's a lot of useless junk that's cleared by association

Are you saying he only took meaningless stuff? Lol.

No; I'm saying that there is a lot of useless junk that has a clearance. I did not say that taking boxes and boxes and boxes of cleared materials into a likely-uncleared site was okay (it most definitely isn't).

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> In his text detailing aspects of the forthcoming attack on Houthi targets, Hegseth wrote to the group—which, at the time, included me—“We are currently clean on OPSEC.” Simply incredible. This is wild.

he said similar thing on his confirmation hearing "My commitment is to not touch alcohol while I have this position"

Lol the most liar-y way to phrase it.

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SO much for 'the most transparent administration in history', not that I bought into that claim in the first place. Seems like a violation of multiple public record-keeping laws.

Trump's razor: The opposite of what he says is closer to the truth.

I'd have phrased it a bit differently. If he accuses an "enemy" of doing something, he's saying he did that.

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In the banking world, employees have been fined significant sums, or even forced from their jobs [0], for unauthorized use of messaging platforms. And here, it's barely a shrug. Unbelievable. [0] https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/morgan-stanley-hit-...

In the government world, people have been jailed for it. Not people so directly connected to a president, though.

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SO much for 'the most transparent administration in history', not that I bought into that claim in the first place. Seems like a violation of multiple public record-keeping laws.

"But her e-mails." > It’s best to understand that fascists see hypocrisy as a virtue. It’s how they signal that the things they are doing to people were never meant to be equally applied. > It’s not an inconsistency. It’s very consistent to the only true fascist value, which is domination. > It’s very important to understand, fascists don’t just see hypocrisy as a necessary evil or an unintended side-effect. > It’s t…

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Re: U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat

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Could've been a setup to get The Atlantic to leak government secrets...

I don't think you deserve the downvotes considering that would be very in character for this administration. That said, it does not seem plausible considering the number of officials they'd have to incriminate to burn Goldberg, not to mention the airing of so much dirty laundry. Seems like a better plan would be to go to him directly with a phony leaker.

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In the banking world, employees have been fined significant sums, or even forced from their jobs [0], for unauthorized use of messaging platforms. And here, it's barely a shrug. Unbelievable. [0] https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/morgan-stanley-hit-...

Rules for thee but not for me. Now get back to work, peasant.

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This is bad news for entire genres of books, TV shows and movies that are based on the supreme competence, sophistication and wealth of the Pentagon, NSA and CIA. Turns out US military strategy is the same as me and my mates setting up a bar date. It's a disturbing leak in itself but i take issue with the journalist obsessing over the tool of choice whilst ignoring the actual strategizing. The casual way in which a m…

> on the supreme competence, sophistication and wealth of the Pentagon, NSA and CIA.

Agencies with no oversight are seen as competent? That's news to me. There's a definite waste of taxpayer dollars on propaganda to try to make this point publicly but I didn't think anyone was poorly educated enough to actually believe it.

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Almost as bad as a private email server being used for governmental business.

No, that was intentional. This incident was an accident.

How was the signal group an accident? It's not (just) adding the journalist which is the problem, it's using a non-approve communication platform for sensitive information.
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