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Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Go look at the commit log and tell me if it looks like abandonware.

They said vaporware, which isn't necessarily the same thing as abandonware. It still could be vaporware if it never lives up to delivering what it promised. I'm not sure on the current state of those promises though, so I don't know if the outlook of it being vaporware is true anymore. At one point it looked like it, but I haven't kept up with it enough.

This is a good POV. For a while there they did think they had a chance at finally figuring out how to solve the halting problem. They of course haven't, and had no chance to do so, but they wanted to discover that for sure, for themselves. So I admire them for trying. These days autofree handles about 95% of allocations, but what's left dangling is pruned by their very low cost tight cleanup looped GC. If you really need to you can do manual memory management, from my fairly substantial usage of the language so far I've been a satisfied customer for sure. I've found compiler bugs, strange behaviour, edge cases etc., yes the team are blunt and to the point, but they're the most professional language team I've ever interacted with, often responding within hours, one time a compiler fix was released the next day.

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Haven't tried it, but it looks nice. Well done to the authors. Reminds me of Flow Control ( https://flow-control.dev/ ), which is really nice and comfortable to use! It looks and feels more mature than a 0.x release.

Haven't heard of this, thanks! I'll definitely be taking a peak at their buffer implementation. Zig was a no go for this project for me due to the lack of concurrency.

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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V is pre-1.0, and you have to install it by compiling it from source. I'm very excited about V. It's the language I wish Go was.

V has good ideas on paper, but most of its claimed features are aspirational. Actually using it for any real world project is an exercise in frustration and confusion, since you're never sure if the weird behavior is intentional or a bug. The documentation is outdated, missing or wrong. The implementation is a mess, even in its pre-1.0 state. Most projects written in it[1] are either demos or abandonware. Much has be…

Can you list any weird behavior/bugs that lead to frustration and confusion?

And examples of the documentation being outdated/wrong?

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Go look at the commit log and tell me if it looks like abandonware.

They said vaporware, which isn't necessarily the same thing as abandonware. It still could be vaporware if it never lives up to delivering what it promised. I'm not sure on the current state of those promises though, so I don't know if the outlook of it being vaporware is true anymore. At one point it looked like it, but I haven't kept up with it enough.

Everything that's listed on the home page is delivered.

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Haven't tried it, but it looks nice. Well done to the authors. Reminds me of Flow Control ( https://flow-control.dev/ ), which is really nice and comfortable to use! It looks and feels more mature than a 0.x release.

Haven't heard of this, thanks! I'll definitely be taking a peak at their buffer implementation. Zig was a no go for this project for me due to the lack of concurrency.

zig worked for https://ghostty.org/

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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nice, V lang. How come I don't hear about this as much as zyg/odin/jai etc?

V is pre-1.0, and you have to install it by compiling it from source. I'm very excited about V. It's the language I wish Go was.

There are prebuilt packages you can install from the home page and from the github repo.

For example

https://github.com/vlang/v/releases/latest/download/v_linux....

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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There has been drama about V and its creator perhaps? I do not remember what exactly. Could anyone remind me what it was all about? Oh, the vaporware thing? BTW I checked the Patreon page. It says "V 1.0 release is planned for 2020". Might want to change that. :D

I remember looking at their code years ago and the network library was calling the curl cli. I didn't pay attention to it since then.

The network library doesn't use curl:

https://github.com/vlang/v/tree/master/vlib/net

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