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TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Post by imiric »

dharmab wrote: post #3
xmonkee wrote: post #2

nice, V lang. How come I don't hear about this as much as zyg/odin/jai etc?

V is pre-1.0, and you have to install it by compiling it from source. I'm very excited about V. It's the language I wish Go was.

V has good ideas on paper, but most of its claimed features are aspirational. Actually using it for any real world project is an exercise in frustration and confusion, since you're never sure if the weird behavior is intentional or a bug. The documentation is outdated, missing or wrong. The implementation is a mess, even in its pre-1.0 state. Most projects written in it[1] are either demos or abandonware.

Much has been discussed about it, and every few years someone writes a "V Language Review" with the same findings. I gave it a try a few months ago and ran into many of the same issues. I'd stay away, and stick with Go, or Zig, Odin or Nim if you're interested in similar alternatives.

[1]: https://github.com/vlang/awesome-v

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Post by square_usual »

johnisgood wrote: post #10
xmonkee wrote: post #2

nice, V lang. How come I don't hear about this as much as zyg/odin/jai etc?

There has been drama about V and its creator perhaps? I do not remember what exactly. Could anyone remind me what it was all about? Oh, the vaporware thing? BTW I checked the Patreon page. It says "V 1.0 release is planned for 2020". Might want to change that. :D

V overpromised and underdelivered, and the creator is pretty abrasive and went to war with anyone who criticized it, so most people stopped paying attention to it until it fulfills what was promised.

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Post by hiccuphippo »

johnisgood wrote: post #10
xmonkee wrote: post #2

nice, V lang. How come I don't hear about this as much as zyg/odin/jai etc?

There has been drama about V and its creator perhaps? I do not remember what exactly. Could anyone remind me what it was all about? Oh, the vaporware thing? BTW I checked the Patreon page. It says "V 1.0 release is planned for 2020". Might want to change that. :D

I remember looking at their code years ago and the network library was calling the curl cli. I didn't pay attention to it since then.

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Post by tauraamui »

square_usual wrote: post #15

The AI generated README isn't really selling me, but I guess the point is that it's like helix but with standard vim keybinds?

Yes pretty much. Admittedly that's all the README needs to say. When I first wrote the project README LLMs were still relatively new for public use, it was much harder to detect back then. Thanks for the feedback.

Re: TUI editor and Vim/Neovim alternative

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Post by tauraamui »

Thank you everyone for commenting and sharing your thoughts regarding my project! I'm aware of the history of V and it's less than stellar reputation in the beginning. I really hope this comment section doesn't devolve into yet another stream of people regurgitating blog posts from over 5 years ago. I evaluate languages and their suitability for projects by just my personal experience using them. Does it do what I need, and does it do it now? That's it.
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