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I'm curious, do you have a source for your claims? > German and UK citizens got canceled, fined or SWATTED for calling their elected rules stupid/corrupt on social media Being "canceled" isn't a defined term. Being SWATted has nothing to do with state censorship, it's people abusing emergency services. Getting a fine by the government for calling "elected rules stupid/corrupt on social media" would be the only thing…
This is missing the point. Everything they offer is storage, VPS, Load balancer, one managed key-value store and two managed databases. For the price a little higher than, say, Digital Ocean. But where is managed cache, message broker, e-mail service. It is not enough to be European, they need to offer something competitive. I guess they can win some clients, given current hostility of Europe against Trump, but what…
Nobody knows the future but one thing is clear and set in stone - trust has been broken. If you have any life or relationship experience, you know trust is always hard to build and easy to lose. Its extremely hard and lengthy to build again once it has been shattered (which it has been already).
Stab in the back is remembered for decades, spit in the face even more. Quadruple that for matters of national security.
they have terraform [provider]( https://search.opentofu.org/provider/upcloudltd/upcloud/late... ), that is great! This is how they compare with AWS: https://upcloud.com/competitors-and-alternatives/aws
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I'm curious, do you have a source for your claims? > German and UK citizens got canceled, fined or SWATTED for calling their elected rules stupid/corrupt on social media Being "canceled" isn't a defined term. Being SWATted has nothing to do with state censorship, it's people abusing emergency services. Getting a fine by the government for calling "elected rules stupid/corrupt on social media" would be the only thing…
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The only reason you may use these EU version of services is that you are in Europe. Otherwise EU is worse in terms of privacy. UK (while not officially in Europe) goes even beyond, requiring backdooor to iCloud and non-eu providers.
Furthermore, in the EU, there is no such a strong equivalent to the 4th Amendment. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies can access your cloud data without needing a warrant—unless the data is stored in the US in which case a US judge would have to approve it. This is one of the reasons they are so eager to keep it "home".
The craziest thing is what happened with Encrochat and SkyECC. These two services made the critical mistake of trusting OVH to host their servers, and then OVH literally placed law enforcement and intelligence agency backdoors on them. Eventually, they even used these backdoors to send malware to users' devices, not caring whether they were located in the EU or not.
While all this was happening, the founder of OVH appeared on a popular YouTube tech channel and proudly explained that, unlike Amazon and Google, they weren’t sniffing their customers’ data. What a liar!
> At UpCloud, we are committed to complying with European data protection laws and compliance with ISO 27001. This international standard not only signifies our dedication to maintaining a high level of information security but also ensures that we adhere to recognized best practices in managing and safeguarding your data. If you want to be Europe only that includes not terminating your SSL at a US CDN provider like…
That is only for their public site. The US provider has a European presence (the error page is clear I am seeing Cloudflare London). Started working for me while typing this.
For now, that limits my choices in Europe to IONOS and OVH.
OVH's interface is pretty chaotic. But the services themselves seem reliable so far. IONOS seems pretty solid in all aspects, but a bit cheesy in their constant battle to upsell you more services.
What they don't mention is that some of their data centers are delivered by Equinix, an American company, so it doesn't matter that it is in Finland (same with Sweden and Poland). It is inherently insecure if you are trying to get away from USA. https://upcloud.com/data-centers
The risk is much lower than e.g. AWS.