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> As someone who's had quite a few dealings with animals (the family business is a horse farm) my interpretation is that human psychology is basically animal psychology with a "language instinct" bolted on as a peripheral. Growing up with cats and dogs all my life I 100% agree with this. That has caused me to look at animals as individuals I can't communicate with instead of lower life forms that are brainless sacks…
Where do you draw the line? Do you think dung beetles have emotions? Not being snarky, I just think it’s a difficult idea to pin down.
The Lost Art of Research as Leisure
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#262I read a fair amount and I actually do research as leisure all the time, but I can’t stand these elitist and unoriginal think pieces about how much better and cooler this person’s habits are than yours. >> for the leisurely researcher, self-study must include the discipline’s foundational texts I feel like this person has some kind of dark academia aesthetic fetish that they need to hold onto to feel superior to ever…
My personal take is LLMs and podcasts are not great for research. Wikipedia is generally outstanding for science and related topics, although it's clearly astroturfed on topics about companies and some political topics. Podcasts typically cover things very shallowly but can sometimes be useful if there's a topic well served by the interview-a-day format. YouTube has a lot of treasure but you need to be able to search and not get distracted by clickbait.
LLMs function exceptionally as next generation search engines. But their knowledge for research bottoms out very quickly unless you know a lot about the subject and are able to prompt it effectively.
For example, I asked ChatGPT o1 your question about suburbs and its answer was basically total nonsense. The third theory it mentions was white flight and the post WWII era, which can't possibly explain why suburbs exist internationally and have since ancient times. There's probably a better prompt where you define what a suburb is and why you're interested in it and otherwise give it some good parameters and it gives you some more relevant information.
BTW I more or less agree that foundational texts can be very important to read. Not always, of course, but often enough that if you read a lot you should consider it. Often I find they bring considerable clarity to a subject.
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> I believe all birds and mammals have a pretty good "theory of mind", it's just hard to do an experiment to prove it Our pet bird (sun conure) actively tries to lie and mislead when he's doing something naughty. Like he will go into the pantry to steal treats and quickly fly out pretending he wasn't in there when he hears you approaching. This indicates he has some theory of mind. He has to understand there's a diff…
Sun conjures are so smart this makes me smile :)
So now he uses that when he needs us to open a door. Threatening to be naughty is the most effective way to get human to come over. Then you fly to the door and human gets the message and opens door. Or treat box or whatever you want help with.
Little shits
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#264I read a fair amount and I actually do research as leisure all the time, but I can’t stand these elitist and unoriginal think pieces about how much better and cooler this person’s habits are than yours. >> for the leisurely researcher, self-study must include the discipline’s foundational texts I feel like this person has some kind of dark academia aesthetic fetish that they need to hold onto to feel superior to ever…
I use LLMs quite a bit (as you can see, for example, on my stream). I also consume a lot of podcasts, YouTube videos, Wikipedia articles, and books. My personal take is LLMs and podcasts are not great for research. Wikipedia is generally outstanding for science and related topics, although it's clearly astroturfed on topics about companies and some political topics. Podcasts typically cover things very shallowly but…
Maybe you meant that it immediately went to USA specific, but you can always change your question to clarify.
Basically, if I'm unfamiliar with the topic this gives me a solid basis to ask begin to ask follow-up questions that use the terminology of the field, or start to find out what is regarded as important.
I actually find it quite easy to go deep into a topic in a way that would be impossible in wikipedia, simply because if the topic becomes too dense for me it's hard to navigate your way back out- the wiki article begins to read like gibberish. With an LLM you can simply ask it to rephrase or clarify something.
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I always love this conversation: Snob: "Listening to an audio book doesn't count as reading the book!" Everyone else in the world: "k"
I saw elsewhere that someone said it was ablist to say that an audiobook doesn't count as a book, which I could only think that we put too much importance on books. Don't take this as an anti-intellectual screed. Far from it--I read a lot. But I think you can also learn from magazines, newspapers, plays, orations, etc. It leads to this weird situation where people are optimizing not for what they're learning but for…
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I could argue that it doesn't because you use different neural path ways to absorb the book :)
Reading material (backlight vs. reflective screen) differs in my experience. Also typing and writing are very different neurologically, but people don't want to acknowledge that, AFAICS.
Mostly because a lot more of your brain is involved in just handling the input so a lot less is available to notice the bullshit.
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I agree with your gut feeling and add that to me it feels im surrounded by f*ing Zombies. It's not that they are too stupid, but they don't even __try__ to think.
My boss regularly criticizes me for thinking too much. Sometimes I stop and think if this is the best way to implement something, and then suddenly receive a lecture about velocity, moving fast, being efficient, being ok with pushing bugs to prod, and all that shebang. Our society has a pathological obsession with productivity.
I like to give the opposite kind of lecture, like when someone refused to even consider alternative ways of solving a problem. Some phrases I like to throw around: "you just wasted 2 days of work, because you skipped 30min of research at the start", or "it's arrogant to assume, you'll find the perfect solution on the very first try".
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> Similar to other commenters I disagree. You can definitely read without parsing and just “move on”. What do you disagree with? Nobody said that reading makes you immune to moving on without understanding. What they said was that while reading it is possible to pause if you don't understand something and move on when you are ready to move on. That's harder to do in videos or lectures. Do you disagree with this?
Parent said: “if I don't understand I cannot move on to next step”. I disagree that you can not move on. You definitely can. So your statement about what “nobody said” contradicts what was actually said.
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Listening to a lecture is a far more passive form of learning than reading a book. Being an avid reader is seen as special because it requires more time and effort to do: you just can't read while doing the dishes or morning cardio or running unit tests. Also, by reading challenging books you learn the valuable skills of backtracking and skimming, which may be applied to better and more quickly understand difficult t…
Ok I'm going to invert that thought, and say: if books are so intelectually more efficient, why do we even have universities? Why do we have lectures, and why doesn't everyone just read? Spoken word is one of the most primitive and human ways of communicating information. Written word appeared as a replacement to spoken word, because there was no other capable medium of information. Now we have mediums capable of doi…
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Listening to a lecture is a far more passive form of learning than reading a book. Being an avid reader is seen as special because it requires more time and effort to do: you just can't read while doing the dishes or morning cardio or running unit tests. Also, by reading challenging books you learn the valuable skills of backtracking and skimming, which may be applied to better and more quickly understand difficult t…
> you just can't read while doing the dishes or morning cardio or running unit tests this is literally what audiobooks are for. And I concentrate significantly better on audio if I'm multitasking with a mindless activity