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Post by reverendsteveii »

majormajor wrote: post #538
kernal wrote: post #512

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The temerity of the whole TDS bullshit is the most obvious proof of an astounding lack of self-awareness on the right. Here the people obsessed with Obama around baseless internet memes for 8 years, who were clutching their pearls over Clinton having an affair, who stuck stickers of Biden on gas pumps for years, who now have latched onto "domestic terrorism" as their new favorite phrase, think dislike of Trump is som…

It's not a lack of self-awareness, it's a purposeful muddying of the waters. It's making being angry at a nazi salute the same as being angry at a tan suit: meaningless. These people aren't stupid. You can tell because what they do works.

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Post by mrguyorama »

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #315
93po wrote: post #277

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Interesting to complain about partisan politics and then write an extremely partisan article

Yes, only the in-group is allowed to be partisan. And break the law with no consequences.

That DOES seem to be the rule for the right in the USA. Democrats still get kicked out of the club when they do blatant crimes and carry around bags of gold bars.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by nailer »

1shooner wrote: post #567
nailer wrote: post #464

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The term was 'authoritarian regime', which is generally used for autocratic leaders. Although 'authoritarian' is also false - political freedoms for the general population are exactly where they were prior to the election, as I'm sure you are aware.

I guess I'm not nearly as sure of what others are aware of, so I'll just provide https://www.project2025.observer as a great resource for tracking actions of the current administration.

Project 2025 is a project from the Heritage foundation, there was a conspiracy during the election to say this was the platform of the Republican Party, the GOP platform is Agenda 47.

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Post by redeeman »

sambeau wrote: post #437
Workaccount2 wrote: post #375

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If Elon recognized that he had the social skills of an NPC and had hired a PR team, we would probably all still adore him and likely he would still just be doing engineering company stuff. Take heed, if you have money, power, and poor social skills, hire people to manage it for you.

He had a PR team. It all started to go wrong after he fired his PR team.

far from everyone would agree its going wrong

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Post by sanderjd »

nailer wrote: post #464
1shooner wrote: post #452

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This is an interesting misconception, I had never considered one would think authoritarians can't be fairly elected. Is the thinking that the electorate would just never elect an authoritarian?

The term was 'authoritarian regime', which is generally used for autocratic leaders. Although 'authoritarian' is also false - political freedoms for the general population are exactly where they were prior to the election, as I'm sure you are aware.

To your first sentence, again, I really think you just have these definitional questions wrong. You seem to be using a vibes-based reading of "authoritarian regime" rather than a "what the words mean" based reading.

To your second paragraph: I'm not going to go into a bunch of examples of things the administration has done, though it would not be hard to do. I'll just reiterate that the thing this thread was originally about is the chilling effect that threats and intimidation has on people's speech. That is just an indirect way to infringe on the right to free expression.

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Post by tonyhart7 »

bravetraveler wrote: post #236
tonyhart7 wrote: post #229

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wdym exploitation, space company would not having a hard time to pay their employee the same reason oil company do also human is expensive, if fleet of human slave is cheap then we outsource all of our work to china and india. but that don't happen we build a trillion dollar industry (AI and robotic) to make all of that

When I look at the power dynamics between employee [on a spaceship] and an employer, pay isn't the utmost concern. Not even the trendy replacement, scrip. Nay, performance reviews and how it might relate to oxygen availability. I don't see a collaborative trip through the cosmos, I see a very unhealthy relationship with danger to boot This may be all the more reason for robots, but again: humans take no engineering.…

its more easier to setup 1 billions self replicating robot in space than setups 1 billions human living conditions infrastructure because back to square one turns out water and plant is more rare than metal in space

also human is fragile, weak, costly, too long to make it productive. it takes 15+ year for human to be any useful at all (and not counting experience)

do you think these space corp would just sit 15+ year revenue of upkeep going to waste only the next day human employee die because some dust near light speed particle hit the station???

nooo, slavery human space is not practical because is not cost effective economy wise

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Post by sanderjd »

nailer wrote: post #573
1shooner wrote: post #567

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I guess I'm not nearly as sure of what others are aware of, so I'll just provide https://www.project2025.observer as a great resource for tracking actions of the current administration.

Project 2025 is a project from the Heritage foundation, there was a conspiracy during the election to say this was the platform of the Republican Party, the GOP platform is Agenda 47.

Dude, you really need to take the partisan blinders off.

They are actively, and extremely obviously, executing on the Project 2025 plan, which they wrote up for exactly this reason. This is primarily being driven by Russell Vought, whose plan this is, through his role at the head of the Office of Management and Budget. There was no "conspiracy" about this, there was only a candidate who brazenly lied about his connection to that plan.

Stop trying to gaslight us. We're not idiots, it won't work.

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Post by sanderjd »

nailer wrote: post #493
MostlyStable wrote: post #473

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Elections are one way of selecting government officials. Authoritarianism is a political philosophy that can be pursued no matter how one was selected. Yes, many/most authoritarians arise either not in democracies, or else in situations where the elections are mostly/entirely a sham, but that is not a requirement. You could, at least in principle, have an authoritarian surveillance state where the government watches…

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Nobody in this thread has said "this is a single-party regime akin to Iraq or North Korea".

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Post by generj »

nailer wrote: post #374
rob74 wrote: post #191

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In this case, "soon" means 2030, which is the planned "retirement" date. Musk suggests to do it even sooner, in two year's time (that would be 2027).

That's not a huge difference.

It’s a massive difference to SpaceX who were awarded the de-orbit contract and would need a massive amount of extra funding to suddenly bring that project’s timeline forward three years.

Also a large difference to all of NASA’s international partners who might lose out on astronaut slots, scientists with experiments that won’t be ran, dozens of contractor companies supporting ISS, etc.

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